If Assange is being detained, then so was Homer Simpson when he wouldn’t let go of the chocolate in the vending machine.
That would be my assessment too. But this doesn’t mean that a) WikiLeaks didn’t do a good thing or b) he raped two women c) he didn’t rape two women.
Is there some general anti-Assange sentiment on this MB I’m not aware of?
I don’t see how this would have taken any pressure. Our government would jump for joy at being able to do the US a favor…
LOL.
Where do you live?
I live in a country with a government like that, but part of the game is not being found out or at least not let any definite proof come to light.
I liken Assange to that other upright world citizen, Roman Polanski. Use the system to get bail and then run like a coward when you realize that you might face some time for your crimes.
There’s a link to the full decision in this commentary piece.
No, the charges are rape, not some weird concoted thing that’s hard to comprehend. If there’s really nothing to the charges, then he should have responded to the prosecutor instead of fleeing the country. Calling a rape a ‘consensual sexual relationship’ is common among rape apologists, but ignoring the victim’s description of the relationship isn’t exactly a valid line of argument.
I don’t get what the US even has to do with it - his extradition would be to Sweeden, who’s shown no interest in sending him to the US, and the US isn’t involved with any of the legal maneuvering. There’s a lot more direct stuff the US could be doing if they really wanted to get their hands on him. Leaking government secrets doesn’t give you a license to commit lesser crimes, especially crimes against other people, under the guise of ‘if you prosecute me, it means you’re a tool of the government I leaked secrets from’.
The gist seems to be that he is being detained because the UK won’t let him travel from the Ecuadorian embassy in London to Ecuador itself. It’s more than faintly ridiculous.
Oh! I thought that was clear; I live in Sweden. And yes, definite proof is probably hard to find.
(Of course, Assange may actually be guilty of rape or sexual assault; let’s not forget that possibility!)
The US is just a boogeyman in this case. Assange needs a bad guy (other than himself) to be the secret mastermind of his troubles. We’re involved because Assange’s story requires us to be.
Way more than faint. It’s pretty silly to claim he’s being detained, when in fact he’s avoiding detention.
Yes, its outright preposterous to basically conclude that someone has a right to declare asylum from criminal investigations in a particular country while physically in that same country.
In my view, the Ecuadorians are detaining him by not providing him with a teleporter to leave the UK without having to pass back in to its jurisdiction.
Why can’t Ecuador provide some kind of “Ecuadorian Caper” like Canada did with those Iranian hostages in 1979?
I wouldn’t want to be released into Swedish custody either on (assumedly) trumped up charges, considering that the Swedish government has already handed over people illegally for torture to the US.
Also, if I recall the story correctly, he’s basically accused of tricking a woman into having unprotected sex by removing his condom during intercourse or something like that. I don’t recall there being any violence involved.
So…
a) Wikileaks did an awesome job and jerk or not, Assange is a hero.
b) He might be guilty of some sexual shenanigans, probably nothing too serious.
c) Whether he is or is not, he’s smart to stay the hell away from Sweden considering our record
Well, shoot, Assange should just go around robbing banks if his “hero” status renders him above the law.
Why assume that they’re trumped up? Do you just dismiss rape charges because, hey, boys will be boys?
Violence is not required for a rape to have happened.
So if ask a guy to screw you without a condom, you’d be fine with that and figure it’s ‘nothing too serious’?
It’s because Assange is a postmodern who is the on the 69th suprasexual level according to the Inturdgral theory something something where giving a middle finger to the US government outweighs rape and the rest of us are silly moderns and premoderns who actually raise a fuss over that crime, amirite?
It’s a pity that Assange-sex criminal and traitor to the West-hasn’t yet to be reduced to a smoking hole in the ground on the orders of the President. Hopefully at the least, eugenics legislation in Sweden will be briefly revived to ensure his sterilization and chemical castration.
Probably because the Ecuadorians don’t really care.
Yeah… because I think Assange’s charges may be trumped up, I of course dismiss all rape charges. Just as if I were to say “I don’t believe person X murdered person Y” that would mean I would dismiss ALL Murder charges…
Actually in Sweden either violence, threats or drugs are needed for it to be classified as rape.
If you feel attracted to me, there are much better come ons than that. No need to make up hypotheticals.
And your “evidence” for this lies in?
And you think none of those are applicable because…?
You make Carly “that face” Fiorina look like Elle Fanning in comparison.