# July 4, 2019: Trumpendence Day!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425 "2019-06-12T14:13:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/21 "2019-06-12T18:24:35Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> It’s going to be at the site of the future Trump Monument.

Does Washington DC actually need another sewage treatment plant?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/22 "2019-06-12T19:23:10Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I bet he’s already demanded that the statue of Lincoln be removed so that he could sit in the giant chair to give his huge speech.

Well, he’s a huge ass, so…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/23 "2019-06-12T19:38:21Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> But that’s one ugly ass balloon I would be happy to see permanently parked in full view of the White House.

That’s the Angry Baby Ugly Ass Balloon, to be precise.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/24 "2019-06-12T20:08:43Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> As a non-resident of DC, I ask, what were the last two celebrations like? Did Il Douche stay away?

The White House typically has a picnic sort of affair for invited guests.

> **[Past and Present: Celebrating July 4th at the White House](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/07/04/past-and-present-celebrating-july-4th-white-house)**
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> Presidents have held Fourth of July celebrations at the White House for over 200 years. In honor of July 4th, 2015, the President and First Lady will commemorate the occasion with the company of military families, rejoicing in freedom and love for...

The last couple years, Trump has played golf and then the White House hosted a few hundred-ish staff and families.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/25 "2019-06-12T20:56:47Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> They’re probably working on plans to have only the State Media (Fox News) covering the event. No other newspapers or TV. The State Media will report on what Dear Leader wants us to know.

Individual 1 has had his fill of Fox News. He wants to create his own news service.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/26 "2019-06-12T21:08:10Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I bet he’s already demanded that the statue of Lincoln be removed so that he could sit in the giant chair to give his huge speech.

Interesting. Does anyone know if the statue is somehow attached to the giant chair? If we could vacate that chair, there would be BIG BUCKS in letting people sit in it for selfies.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/27 "2019-06-12T21:34:48Z")

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Yeah, but what about the sitting Lincoln statue? Moved off to the side, sitting there on nothing like a glitched out NPC in a video game?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/28 "2019-06-12T22:05:23Z")

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Giant stool…?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/29 "2019-06-12T22:06:41Z")

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^ straight line ^

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/30 "2019-06-12T22:47:08Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Giant stool…?

> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> ^ straight line ^

^ Thank you ^

Wouldn’t that be redundant?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/31 "2019-06-12T23:09:51Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> About the only possibility I can think of is that he wants Lincoln, but one of his staff has made some argument for why the Washington Monument is better

Such as the fact that Washington actually had a part in the event being commemorated?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/32 "2019-06-13T01:16:27Z")

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Sidetracking, and really stupid, but I kind of LIKE the idea that Daniel Chester French sculpted the Lincoln statue independent of the Big Chair, and they just dropped it on there with a crane.

And being able to move it out for, say, Christmas, and put a huge marble statue of Santa Claus in there. And the Easter Bunny. And important heads of state when they pay official visits. Imagine Bibi sitting in there, or Boris Johnson, or Kim Jong-un.

And major movie promotions!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/33 "2019-06-13T02:23:47Z")

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How will Trump pull off a speech on the 4th, anyway? “The great heroes who founded this great country, which liberals have destroyed, aided by the fake news media who are the enemy of the people, but thanks to me the economy is better than it has ever been, the economy is going to the Moon which is a part of Mars…”

Omg. I do think I would tune in for that one. I sincerely hope no one gets hurt though.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/34 "2019-06-13T02:43:35Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> About the only possibility I can think of is that he wants Lincoln, but one of his staff has made some argument for why the Washington Monument is better, and he’s too phobic to make a decision.

Washington Monument is more phallic.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/35 "2019-06-13T14:07:50Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Omg. I do think I would tune in for that one. I sincerely hope no one gets hurt though.

Even the speaker? Those rotten eggs and tomatoes being thrown at someone can really hurt.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/36 "2019-06-13T14:13:35Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Washington Monument is more phallic.

And at the Lincoln, he would be confronted by his greatest nemesis…stairs.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/37 "2019-06-13T15:07:00Z")

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And big hands. Abe will make Trump seem extremely inadequate in that department.

I’m not going to bring up the Washington Monument’s phallicness.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/38 "2019-06-13T15:07:31Z")

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Trump could sit in Lincoln’s chair and finish his speech with, “And that’s the truth…Pbbbbbbbbt!”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/39 "2019-06-13T16:09:14Z")

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It’s possible Trump will celebrate July 4 by issuing an Executive Order overturning the Declaration of Independence and returning us to England.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-4-2019-trumpendence-day/835425/40 "2019-06-13T16:11:38Z")

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He did hit it off with the Queen.

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