# July SoCal Doperfest - be there or be rectilinear **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 30, 2000, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113 "2000-06-30T03:34:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/1 "2000-06-30T03:34:29Z")
So, I opened my big mouth and asked when the next SoCal Doperfest was. Turns out that whoever asks it is in charge of coordinating it. Either that, or Arnold pulled a fast one on me. So here are my thoughts: Bruno’s Italian Cafe on San Marcos Blvd. in San Marcos, about two miles south of 78. They’ve got a great buffet as well as food-of-the-gods pizza. Prices are a bit high, but service is pretty darn good. Now, when’s a good time. I’m pretty much free on the weekends, when I figure everyone else is as well. Speak up! I want a consensus here. ---
**Author:** ![Catrandom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7bcc69/32.png) [@Catrandom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catrandom)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/2 "2000-06-30T04:05:40Z")
Um…where’s San Marcos, exactly? How far south we talkin’ about? Catrandom in L.A. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/3 "2000-06-30T05:28:43Z")
This is great of you to do this **Phouka**. I must say, though. For me, San Marcos is a bit too far South. I will have to make it to the next one. (Unless my not being able to go would convince our fearless leader **phouka** to relocate closer up to LA. Pretty please. :)) pat ---
**Author:** ![Niggle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Niggle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niggle)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/4 "2000-06-30T06:00:52Z")
Hmmmm… maybe I can take some of my vacation time and drive down. I don’t know any of you, but it’s a dern good way to meetcha! It’s quite a drive from Vancouver though… anyone else living in the city want to help drive? Nice sportscar! \ -niggle ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/5 "2000-06-30T17:21:37Z")
Well, I certainly don’t have any objections to meeting in LA. I can crash with my bro in Azusa. Trouble is, I don’t know of anyplace in LA that would be cool enough for a Doperfest. Actually, I don’t know of anyplace in LA, period. Remember how new I am? So, guys, come on. Help a new SoCal-er out. Where do you want to meet? ---
**Author:** ![Baglady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Baglady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baglady)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/6 "2000-06-30T17:54:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Now, when’s a good time. I’m pretty much free on the weekends, when I figure everyone else is as well. Speak up! I want a consensus here. Which weekend? I’ll most likely be at Disneyland on the 17th… not sure about the other weekends… [where’s San Marcos?] ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/7 "2000-06-30T18:24:13Z")
Come on down, **niggle**! We can talk about flying! 🙂 FWIW, it’s about 1,300 miles from Vancouver, B.C. to L.A. Maybe a little more. If you drive down “The 5” ( **PurpleCrackWhore** pointed out that Southern Californians call their freeways “The (number of the freeway)”) it will take you about 20 hours. At least, that’s about how long it took me to get to Bellingham from here. A good stopping point is Redding, CA, as it’s about 1/2 way. Be prepared for a hot, ugly drive down the 5. Of course, if you already had a pilot’s license and access to an airplane, you could do it in a day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Vega](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Lord\_Vega](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Vega)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/8 "2000-06-30T19:08:21Z")
Well, I’m kinda partial to the Ventura County area… We have some cool places out here. After living here most of my life, I’m not sure where San Marcos is. :o ---
**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/9 "2000-06-30T19:28:04Z")
Damn, San Marcos. And only 13 years ago I was living in Escondido. I would’ve been _soooo_ close! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2000, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/10 "2000-06-30T23:49:40Z")
Catrandom, San Marcos is between the Orange County border and San Diego, next to Escondido, east of Carlsbad. Here’s a suggestion of a place to meet: at 1 PM on a Saturday or Sunday at the Marie Callender’s restaurant next to the LA County Art Museum. Then if people are interested we can go visit the Art Museum or the Tar Pits. This is actually a pretty nice Marie Callender’s, very elegant. We could make up a schedule - show up at Marie Callender’s between 1 and 3, then visit the museum afterwards. The disadvantages of this suggestion: there is not the possibility of late arrivals being able to join the group. Advantage: People can drive there and get home in the same day without a long drive late at night. If people prefer the meet in a restaurant for chatting and drinking, and spending the afternoon/evening there, a friend of mine has recommended this restaurant: [Cozymel’s](http://www.zagat.com/search/detail.asp?partner=0,%20,%200,%20&localeID=9&partner=0&ID=5675) in El Segundo. Here’s what [Daily Diner](http://www.dailydiner.com/location.cfm/2397/2906) says about it. Suggested dates: 22 or 23 July 2000. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2000, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/11 "2000-07-01T00:36:33Z")
Marie Callender’s i scloser to me, but Cozymel’s sounds like more fun. =:^) ---
**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2000, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/12 "2000-07-01T00:47:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > Well, I certainly don’t have any objections to meeting in LA. I can crash with my bro in Azusa. > \*\* Duuuuuuuude(ette)!! I got my BA in Azusa! I live just about 3 miles south of Azusa! Weird and stuff! Anywho…I’m game except for the weekend of the 15th; I’ll be in Ohio. San Marcos is a bit of a drive, though. **BUT** I am all for JohnnyLA’s Marie Callendar’s suggestion. I’ve been there several times after a day of museum-hopping, and it really is a nice place. It’s far nicer than your average MC’s. (In fact, I think this is the original restaurant, and is just called "Callendar’s). I’m quite game for that one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2000, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/13 "2000-07-01T01:37:58Z")
Oooooh! I wanna see the tar pits! I wanna see the tar pits! And then maybe afterwards, kick back and let the latecomers join us for some breeze shooting? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2000, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/14 "2000-07-01T02:39:36Z")
Actually, MC’s was **Arnold’s** idea. 😉 The place in El Segundo sounds hipper, but I could go for the tar pits… _singing_ Pico and Sepulveda Pico and Sepulveda Doheny… Cahuenga… La Brea… Tar Pits TAR PITS! … \*BTW: The La Brea Tar Pits are nowhere near Pico and Sepulveda. But I didn’t write the song! ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/15 "2000-07-02T00:39:03Z")
I am up for Arnold’s idea. Sounds like mucho fun. We gotta have it before the 5th, so we can have the single Arnold. We know how marriage changes people. Once he gets married he will be way too happy to be hanging out with the Dopers. 🙂 I vote for a Saturday in July. (Aside from the 15th.) pat ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/16 "2000-07-02T00:39:55Z")
Bump, damn you! Bump! I refuse to let this thread die without a doperfest IRL. So, when’s a good date? How about the 22nd of July? It’s a Saturday? It’s not too far away. Come on, people! Work with me! ---
**Author:** ![Niggle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Niggle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Niggle)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/17 "2000-07-02T00:56:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > Come on down, **niggle**! We can talk about flying! 🙂 > \*\* Woohoo! Flying! Hey, I just had my first flight today. It was just an orientation, but I got to do everything but land and chatter on the radio! Yay! I’m addicted! It’s worse than crack. > [@](#): > > \*\* > FWIW, it’s about 1,300 miles from Vancouver, B.C. to L.A. Maybe a little more. If you drive down “The 5” ( **PurpleCrackWhore** pointed out that Southern Californians call their freeways “The (number of the freeway)”) it will take you about 20 hours. At least, that’s about how long it took me to get to Bellingham from here. A good stopping point is Redding, CA, as it’s about 1/2 way. Be prepared for a hot, ugly drive down the 5. > \*\* 20 hours huh? That could be fun… No problem with hot, I’ll just put the top down! I love having a convertible. Remind me to get a nice sunhat. Still, it would be nice to have someone else in the car to split the driving with. Anyone along the way want a ride? You must be able to drive standard. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Of course, if you already had a pilot’s license and access to an airplane, you could do it in a day. 🙂 > \*\* Grrrrr… don’t remind me. -niggle ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/18 "2000-07-02T01:38:51Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s worse than crack. Oh, it is\*… _much_ worse! And more expensive! Heh heh heh. Another one hooked! \*Johnny L.A. would like to point out that he’s never tried crack. But he will attest that flying is _extremely_ addictive. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Vega](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Lord\_Vega](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Vega)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/19 "2000-07-02T02:55:35Z")
> [@](#): > > So, when’s a good date? How about the 22nd of July? It’s a Saturday? It’s not too far away. Come on, people! Work with me! The 22nd works for me. Now all we have to do is figure out where. V. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2000, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113/20 "2000-07-02T18:49:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > The 22nd works for me. Now all we have to do is figure out where. > > V. > \*\* I like Arnold’s idea. Sounds like a fun place to go, and I haven’t been to the tar pits for a long time. pat PS: Lord Vega, we should have a SB County/Ventura gettogether sometime. Sure it will be a party of two, but thats ok. We will start a trend and eveyrone will wanna come up here. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/july-socal-doperfest-be-there-or-be-rectilinear/24113.md?page=2)