# Junkies, faggots and Africans - who cares if they die?  pluralgravity doesn't...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449 "2002-07-11T17:09:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/21 "2002-07-11T23:05:05Z")

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I just want to keep you BOTH in a cage in my living room you’re so cute

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/22 "2002-07-11T23:09:46Z")

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teehee

You guys are up in arms over a petty 25 post newbie who’s probably someone who’s already been banned and just not caught yet? I don’t get it. I think he’s just trying to start off his short-lived straight dope experience by being inflammatory. And he’s probably been here before.

But, in case not, just an FYI, plural. I’ve met **Francesca** , and not only is she hot, she’s sweet. So, kindly shut up until you’ve educated yourself.

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/23 "2002-07-11T23:11:04Z")

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Some people always have to be inflammatory. Is he even really worth paying attention to?

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/24 "2002-07-11T23:30:54Z")

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**Alex**! How we’ve missed you so! Quick, say something mumbly and unintelliglble! (It’s so cute when he does that!)

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2002, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/25 "2002-07-11T23:38:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*she had the gall to criticise him! that means she’s too gross to have sex with! \*\*

He did call her a hot chick first though. The comment didn’t really make any sense.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/26 "2002-07-12T00:06:53Z")

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I’m shocked

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**Author:** ![pluralgravity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@pluralgravity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pluralgravity)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/27 "2002-07-12T00:41:33Z")

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Oh dear, when you disagree with the caring, inclusive, tolerant elite they turn into a pack of ravenous poodles, howling for blood.  
Even my ‘sweet’ compatriot **Francesca** starts using bad words.  
**Heloise** I am not a troll. I discovered SDMD recently and thought it had many smart, kind and witty people whose company I would I would enjoy. I have started two other threads and was touched by the interesting and informative replies.  
Lets see, this started at IMHO got moved to Great Debates and now we’ re at the Pit. On to General Question with ‘‘Whats a suitable medievil punishment for being an honest man’’

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/28 "2002-07-12T00:56:46Z")

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> Oh dear, when you disagree with the caring, inclusive, tolerant elite they turn into a pack of ravenous poodles, howling for blood.

Imagine! People thinking you’re a dick because you’re uncaring, exclusive and intolerant!

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/29 "2002-07-12T01:04:00Z")

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What’s the SDMD?

Straight Demented Males Dominion?

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/30 "2002-07-12T01:05:06Z")

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I think **pluralgravity** is trying to teach all us PC thugs an important lesson on a very special episode of Growing Pains.

Now, who is that trip-traping upon my bridge?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/31 "2002-07-12T01:05:48Z")

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> ‘‘Whats a suitable medievil punishment for being an honest man’’

You may honestly believe money is being wasted on an AIDS vaccine - doesn’t make you any less ignorant. And we’re fighting ignorance here, not administering polygraphs.

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**Author:** ![Wabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wabbit)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/32 "2002-07-12T01:17:33Z")

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I wonder at the reasoning that can condemn 40 million people to a slow wasting death. The key here is that people are **looking ahead** to the damage that HIV will cause in the next decade and trying to prevent it: why would anyone in their right mind want to argue against an AIDS vaccine? The flu does kill 20,000 a year, granted, but it’s a fairly stable casualty rate–as horrible as that sounds–and primarily strikes people with other health problems (i.e. the old, etc.) so we can manage its risks barring a return of the ‘super-flu’ epidemic which struck after WWI \<crosses fingers and toes\>. FWIW, the flu epidemic in 1919-20 killed roughly 20 million throughout the world–AIDS looks like it will double that number. I really don’t understand this argument.  
This is just bewildering…

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/33 "2002-07-12T01:24:25Z")

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**Alex** , that was the best flame I’ve read in a long time. “Sesame Street-hating, exercise bike-sniffing, advertising executive-admiring, bizarrely troubling excuse for a human being.” are the best insults I’ve ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/34 "2002-07-12T01:30:29Z")

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If you are not a troll, **pluralgravity** , then perhaps you were trying to make a point that I didn’t understand. From my gathering, you were saying that there is a disease that exists, that is epidemic, but that doesn’t deserve our attention because the people who have it and will get it deserve it. If you are attempting to say something else, please explain it to me and I will withdraw my statement. (not the one about **francesca** being hot, though.)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/35 "2002-07-12T01:36:25Z")

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> Oh dear, when you disagree with the caring, inclusive, tolerant elite they turn into a pack of ravenous poodles, howling for blood.

Who ever said we were caring, inclusive, or tolerant? God knows I’m not, and I still think you’re an asshole.

And never underestimate a poodle.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/36 "2002-07-12T01:38:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kamandi \*  
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> That’s what this thread is all about, Timmy. \*\*

Thanks, **Kamandi**.

Timmy, and I quote,

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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*  
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> Since we’re all been tripping all over ourselves in Great Debates trying not to get ourselves banned for our reactions to this particularly touchy OP, I figured I’d start the Pit thread to keep us sane. \*\*

My post was my reaction. Nothing more. I have no desire to debate with anyone who is as unbelievably peanut-brained as this fucknugget. But thanks for your comment.

Oh, and **eris**? I covered myself with this: \*\*That’s what sets them apart from the people who choose to be celebate, or the ones that are simply going through a dry spell. \*\* Wasn’t talking about you, sweetums. 🙂

-BK

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/37 "2002-07-12T02:06:31Z")

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or what about those of us who really have found happiness and love in monogamy? We don’t necessarily have to be peanut brained either 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/38 "2002-07-12T03:02:23Z")

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“Is he even really worth paying attention to?”

No. But, it’s FUN to see people flame him! 😃

I’m celebate too, BTW and you don’t see me wanting to impose morality on others. HEhehheeh…

Eh…I hope the “celebate” part wasn’t TMI…

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/39 "2002-07-12T03:24:42Z")

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No, but a mispelling of such a dreary word, making it only one letter short of “celebrate” is darned surreal.

_Whoohoo! Unhealthy retention of seed!_ 😉

And your home-page is [http://jowysiren.sexsexworld.com/](http://jowysiren.sexsexworld.com/)  
I’m so confused.

I’m just going to go off by myself for a while and contemplate the image of Alex and Francesca in a cage in Jarbaby’s livingroom. \<twitch\>

Oh, and **pg** – it’s not your _honesty_ that’s objectionable. It’s your ignorance. Dishonesty wouldn’t make it any better.

Try it out: Repeat after me: “Some of my best friends are gay/black/i.v. drug users.”

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No, you’re still a reprehensible asshole, and _at least_ as deserving of an incurable terminal disease as anyone else on the planet.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2002, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/junkies-faggots-and-africans-who-cares-if-they-die-pluralgravity-doesnt/118449/40 "2002-07-12T03:48:13Z")

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I don’t understand this attack at all. pluralgravity said nothing that the title says. He cleared up his seeming insensitivity towards Africans by stating that Africans should try to solve their problem themselves. What’s wrong with that? So he doesn’t look at Africans as a bunch of children that need to hold the West’s hand to get through life. They’re people just like us and solve problems in the same way, so how are we so superior? It’s been over 20 years and we’re nowhere near a cure, just an expensive way to stay alive longer and spread it to others. Maybe Africans can look at the disease in a totally innovative way and discover an approach that the West could never think of if we just let them and stop acting like the know-it-alls we’re not. And his comments about Western victims deserving it were obviously just borne out of ignorance of how it’s spread (he had the misconception that you have to have a risky sex life to catch the disease when that’s not true, you just have to come into contact with someone who does). Isn’t this board about fighting ignorance?

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