# Jupiter's Legacy (Netflix) \[Spoilers after first post\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\ **Created:** [May 8, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653 "2021-05-08T09:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/21 "2021-05-12T18:37:03Z")
That’s my guess too. (Except I only thought of the captain) ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/22 "2021-05-12T23:37:54Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > So far, the theme of _Legacy_ hasn’t been that being the superhero kid of superheroes sucks. It’s that being the kid of Paragon, _specifically_ , sucks. Nitpick: The Utopian. Paragon is the kid. Non-nitpick: I think it’s a bit more than _just_ being the kid of the Utopian, specifically. The Flare and his daughter seem to have a pretty good relationship. But Hutch and his father seem to have a dysfunctional relationship, at best. And as for Walt and his daughter, well… ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/23 "2021-05-12T23:45:57Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > Was it ever explained where all the other powered people came from? I originally thought everyone with powers was descended from them over the years, then I realized all their children appear too young to have adult kids, much less grandkids. > [@MrDibble](#): > > Nope. > [@Noelq](#): > > The only hint on how the others got their powers was when the big “light blast” thingy happened for The Six, it looks like the guys on the boat had some sort of response to the light. It might mean that the power-blast changed all those in its radius, with lessening effects like throwing a rock in a pond. > > Its just my guess. When the Union are discussing who and what Not!Blackstar is, one of them mentions a parallel universe, as if that’s a thing. There’s some other hints here and there that this is supposed to be something like a standard super-hero universe, with varied origins, aliens, parallel worlds, magic, and so forth. It’s just that the precipitating event that set off the Age of Heroes in this universe was the one that gave the founding members of the Union of Justice their powers. Since the show is centered around them and their legacy, that’s the origin we see. And since they were the first, everyone else follows their example, with the costumes and capes, and the Code, even if they have completely unrelated origins. But it was not at all clear, one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/24 "2021-05-13T05:09:05Z")
Right, thanks for the correction. I haven’t met Walter’s daughter yet, or seen any interaction between Hutch and his dad. > [@gdave](#): > > There’s some other hints here and there that this is supposed to be something like a standard super-hero universe That was my impression. Blackstar is clearly a Science Villain. > [@gdave](#): > > And since they were the first, everyone else follows their example, with the costumes and capes, and the Code, even if they have completely unrelated origins. Or become supervillains. Although even Hutch’s crew seemed to have codenames. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/25 "2021-05-15T00:20:02Z")
I think twenty or even ten years ago this might have been an innovative show or series. Now it’s just rehashing some old ideas with a couple neat concepts thrown in for spice. Maybe we’re just too used to the idea of superheroes using lethal force. Annoying that the only people we hear about changing the world or what people should do with their superpowers seem to be the straight white males. Duhamel does a decent job, I suppose, as Jesus Superman and Ian Quinlan was a standout IMHO. And I’m sad that the men in monkey masks in the first episode weren’t actual sentient monkeymen. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/26 "2021-05-15T08:01:35Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > And I’m sad that the men in monkey masks in the first episode weren’t actual sentient monkeymen. So it wasn’t just me… ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/27 "2021-05-17T05:26:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I think twenty or even ten years ago this might have been an innovative show or series Well, the comics came out in 2013 so that’s about 8 years. And the Kingdom Come comics came out in 1996. So yeah the story isn’t really new or innovative. I finished the show so far and it’s different enough from Volume 1 of the comics that I’m curious to see where they are going to go next. It definitely gets better as it moves forward. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/28 "2021-06-02T23:13:47Z")
So it looks like the show is a one-and-done, but they’re gonna do a spinoff called SUPERCROOKS. [‘Jupiter’s Legacy’ Done at Netflix as Streamer Explores Other Millarworld Projects – The Hollywood Reporter](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jupiters-legacy-canceled-netflix-1234962194/) Maybe that will be better, but I’m not confident. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/29 "2021-06-03T00:18:48Z")
It’s not “one and done”, one and done shows tell a coherent story in one season. This was just Netflix being Netflix. ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/30 "2021-06-03T00:27:15Z")
Yeah, the definitely didn’t give the show long enough to even get to the better stuff. It’s like this first season was a “Hey get to know these characters before we get to the good story coming up”. And then season 2 would have been the story. And Netflix was like, “What? It didn’t make 5 billion dollars before it even got into the good part? Cancel!” ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/31 "2021-06-03T01:21:31Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > So it looks like the show is a one-and-done, but they’re gonna do a spinoff called SUPERCROOKS. [‘Jupiter’s Legacy’ Done at Netflix as Streamer Explores Other Millarworld Projects – The Hollywood Reporter](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jupiters-legacy-canceled-netflix-1234962194/) > > Maybe that will be better, but I’m not confident. Screw Netflix and their annoying cancellations.Here’s part of a story - no, no conclusion for you. Start this different story instead, we’ll finish it this time, we promise! Maybe they should be more careful about what they greenlight and stick with them longer instead of throwing everything at the wall and canceling what doesn’t stick. I don’t much like getting involved with stories and then never finishing them, and that’s getting to be more the rule than the exception. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/32 "2021-06-03T11:17:36Z")
> [@Enjoy\_Slurm](#): > > And Netflix was like, “What? It didn’t make 5 billion dollars before it even got into the good part? Cancel!” Another story I read pegged the cost of Season 1 at **$200 million**. I can understand why Netflix had high expectations based on that, but I’m disappointed that the show got cancelled. And the new _Supercrooks_ show will be anime, a live-action version in simultaneous development also got dropped. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/33 "2021-06-03T22:28:21Z")
Releasing so close to the much better, and I imagine significantly cheaper “Invincible” probably doomed it. ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/34 "2021-06-03T23:11:04Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Another story I read pegged the cost of Season 1 at **$200 million**. I can understand why Netflix had high expectations based on that, but I’m disappointed that the show got cancelled. I would think if you’re gonna spend that much you’d wait a little bit to see if it’ll return that instead of basically giving it a week and not seeing the numbers you want and then canceling. If they had let it go into a Season 2 they could have explained a lot which would have made season 1 look a lot better. Plus I saw no advertising for this show. I was at the comic shop and overheard some guys talking about the show and how it was going to be Netflix’s answer to The Boys. So I went over and bought the comics so I could get a jump on the story and then went and looked for it on Netflix, didn’t see it and googled around until I found some obscure article mentioning it and it’s release. Then I wrote my self a note and taped it up on my things to do board as a reminder. I didn’t start seeing things from Netflix about the show until like a week out. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/35 "2021-12-03T18:00:02Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > And the new _Supercrooks_ show will be anime, a live-action version in simultaneous development also got dropped. I finished watching Supercrooks over the weekend. It was more than a little strange having a Japanese cartoon spin-off of a canceled American live-action show; some of the characters seemed like they wouldn’t be out of place in an episode of Sailor Moon and on the other hand you have a relatively realistic animated version of Josh Duhamel in old-age makeup. The plot was your basic heist movie with silly plot twists (not quite as silly as Red Notice, but still): light-hearted with quite a bit of gore (e.g. two brothers who can regenerate after being torn into little pieces). I liked it, but I certainly didn’t love it. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/36 "2021-12-03T18:13:45Z")
I kept seeing Netflix pushing _Supercrooks_, but I had no idea it was supposed to be in the _Jupiter’s Legacy_ universe. I might actually watch it now. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/37 "2021-12-03T18:27:39Z")
As long as you don’t expect more than a few token references to Jupiter’s Legacy. There really isn’t much of a connection other than a couple of cameo appearances. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyEcks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnnyecks/32/18197_2.png) [@JohnnyEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyEcks)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/38 "2021-12-03T21:16:26Z")
Having read the original graphic novel, I found Supercrooks meh. The final four heist episodes recreated the comics almost exactly, and were quite good. The other episodes that essentially were an extended backstory leading up to it were less good, with a few exceptions. (Zombie attack!). In addition, the extra material added a ton of extra plot holes. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/39 "2021-12-07T17:04:25Z")
> [@JohnnyEcks](#): > > The other episodes that essentially were an extended backstory leading up to it were less good, with a few exceptions. There were a lot of characters involved in the heist, so it makes sense to introduce them a few at a time rather than all at once. I’m not sure they needed to spend so much time on Johnny’s childhood or his dopey villain friends, though. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653/40 "2021-12-07T17:15:15Z")
Re Supercrooks: Some shows, I skip the intro after the first one. For this show I didn’t, mainly because of the music (and I’ll admit, the animated cute girl). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jupiters-legacy-netflix-spoilers-after-first-post/941653.md?page=1)