# Jussie Smollett (Empire) alleged hate crime attack. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 17, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706 "2019-02-17T04:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/141 "2019-02-23T03:28:45Z")
Western Union, šŸ˜‰ Funny clip. Thatā€™s probably how the rehearsal went down. The language is a disturbing reminder of the hate speech Jussie wanted to stir up. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/142 "2019-02-23T04:16:56Z")
Seems to me that his reasoning was that in real life random attacks the perps are almost never found. So he could make up an attack, and the cops wouldnā€™t be able to make any progress on the case. But thatā€™s only the case for real random attacks. The problem is that he really had all sorts of connections with his accomplices. In real cases that get solved itā€™s because the perpetrator had a personal connection to the victim. Pretty white girl gets killed and itā€™s almost always the boyfriend or the ex-boyfriend or the creepy neighbor. So he confused the likely outcome if the attack had been realā€“no leads no progressā€“with the likely outcome of a staged attackā€“lots of leads, lots of connections. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/143 "2019-03-08T23:11:48Z")
Something interesting: > [@](#): > > Dozens of workers at Northwestern Memorial Hospital may have been fired for improperly reviewing the medical records of Jussie Smollett, who was treated at the emergency room after he claimed he had been attacked by two men. Sources said those workers have been terminated after gaining access to the ā€œEmpireā€ actorā€™s medical chart. Smollett has since been charged with staging the whole incident. > > One of the nurses said it was a misunderstanding, and claimed she never even accessed Smollettā€™s chart, but she was fired last week and believes many other nurses and staffers were fired for the same reason. The nurse said she was called in at the end of her shift last Tuesday, fired on the spot and escorted out of the hospital. She said she wasnā€™t asked any questions and never had a chance to offer an explanation. She said she never accessed the actorā€™s chart, but simply scrolled past it when looking for another patientā€™s name. > **[EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Of Northwestern Hospital Workers May Have Been Fired For...](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/nurses-fired-northwestern-jussie-smollett-attack/)** > > Dozens of workers at Northwestern Hospital may have been fired for improperly reviewing the medical records of Jussie Smollett, who was treated at the emergency room after he claimed he had been attacked by two men. This hospital take HIPAA seriously. > **[Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_and_Accountability_Act)** > > The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA or the Kennedyā€“Kassebaum Act) is a United States Act of Congress enacted by the 104th United States Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on August 21, 1996. It aimed to alter the transfer of healthcare information, stipulated the guidelines by which personally identifiable information maintained by the healthcare and healthcare insurance industries should be protected from fraud and theft, and add The act con... ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/144 "2019-03-08T23:41:42Z")
A Cook Country grand jury has just now indicted Jussie on 16 additional counts of felony disorderly conduct for filing false police reports. [Read the bond proffer submitted by the Stateā€™s Attorney](https://media.fox32chicago.com/media.fox32chicago.com/document_dev/2019/02/21/smollett-proffer_6806384_ver1.0.pdf) for a detailed account of what they believe happened and how they were caught. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/145 "2019-03-09T01:35:52Z")
The state certainly has a strong case. The evidence and timeline they describe seems unassailable. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/146 "2019-03-09T03:47:19Z")
Yeah, heā€™s toast. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/147 "2019-03-09T15:58:23Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > A Cook Country grand jury has just now indicted Jussie on 16 additional counts of felony disorderly conduct for filing false police reports. > > [Read the bond proffer submitted by the Stateā€™s Attorney](https://media.fox32chicago.com/media.fox32chicago.com/document_dev/2019/02/21/smollett-proffer_6806384_ver1.0.pdf) for a detailed account of what they believe happened and how they were caught. Itā€™s an amazing level of evidence against him. Watching the news today he is still claiming innocence. I really donā€™t understand this strategy. And in an odd twist to all of this are the 60+ hospital employees who got fired for accessing his medical records. Not that I condone what they did in any way but I feel a little bad for them. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/148 "2019-03-09T18:33:53Z")
CBS legal analyst Irv Miller explains Class 4 felony under Illinois Law. He says the number of charges doesnā€™t effect sentencing. If one charge sticks or all 16 itā€™s still either probation or 1 to 3 years prison. He also comments that in Illinois probation is the default for first time offenders. Felons given sentences actually serve half the prison time. 5 min interview (skip to 3:40 for jail time answer) [https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08/jussie-smollett-grand-jury-indictment/amp/](https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08/jussie-smollett-grand-jury-indictment/amp/) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/149 "2019-03-09T18:42:26Z")
btw, Irv Miller is a Chicago criminal law attorney. His legal analysis for this case should be pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/150 "2019-03-09T19:59:41Z")
any mention of fines for wasting the cityā€™s time? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/151 "2019-03-09T20:20:45Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Itā€™s an amazing level of evidence against him. From when this started going south I always figured that if they ever charged him it would only be if they were damn sure they had an airtight case. There is no way that the political side of it wanted it to blow up in their face with an unsucessful prosecution. Because of the publicity they wouldā€™ve just marked it as unsolved. I truly think that he believed there wouldnā€™t be any or much investigation and he could just use it as publicity. He misscalculated that the publicity itself would ensure a vigorous investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Flare4roach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7cd45c/32.png) [@Flare4roach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flare4roach)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/152 "2019-03-11T23:17:59Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Whatever the outcome, I hope Jussie realizes we all make mistakes. He shouldnā€™t beat himself up over it. Best joke out there. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/153 "2019-03-11T23:37:00Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > ā€¦ Watching the news today he is still claiming innocence. I really donā€™t understand this strategy. ā€¦ Heā€™s not very smart. Heā€™s panicked and doesnā€™t know what else to do so heā€™s doubling down on his lies. Calling it a ā€œstrategyā€ is being _way_ too loose with the term. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/154 "2019-03-12T16:56:07Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Watching the news today he is still claiming innocence. I really donā€™t understand this strategy. Unless/until you get a plea deal, thereā€™s no reason not to claim innocence. What else is he supposed to do? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/155 "2019-03-12T21:13:27Z")
> [@Flare4roach](#): > > Best joke out there. I wish Iā€™d thought of it myself. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/156 "2019-03-12T21:18:10Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Unless/until you get a plea deal, thereā€™s no reason not to claim innocence. What else is he supposed to do? Keep his mouth shut? If there is any chance at all that he will admit to it and take a plea then he should stop talking right now. The longer he protests his innocence the harder his image rehabilitation will be. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706/157 "2019-03-12T21:28:55Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Unless/until you get a plea deal, thereā€™s no reason not to claim innocence. What else is he supposed to do? Well, if he doesnā€™t want to bury his carreer he should stop digging the hole deeper. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jussie-smollett-empire-alleged-hate-crime-attack/829706.md?page=7)