The other theory is that he is also responsible for the threatening letter. And that the motivation for both the letter and attack was to prevent him from losing his job on the TV series and make him more famous.
Let’s see. 38 million black people in the United States. 0.03% * 38 million = more than 11 thousand.
You think more than 11 thousand hate crimes committed on black people is nothing to worry about!? WTF is wrong with you?
(And I bet that’s only convictions for hate crimes, not actual hate crimes.)
On the contrary, he’s now far more famous than he ever was before. He’s made national news whereas before this, 99.999% of people had no clue who he was. This could propel him in his acting career.
Now 99.993% of people have no clue who he is.
I never said anything about it being nothing to worry about. My point was about how the supply of these hate crimes is (fortunately) vastly lower than the demand to demonstrate them, which leads to so many hoax hate crimes.
That number is shockingly higher than I would have expected. I would have guessed maybe a hundred a year, given how high the threshold is to be convicted of a hate crime: You basically have to announce into a video camera that you’re attacking a random person only because of their race, and then get unlucky with the prosecutor and the jury.
11,000 is a disturbingly high number: So much worse than I ever thought. WTF is happening with this country?
So many? I’m aware of maybe 3 hoax racist attacks in the past couple decades. I mean, I haven’t looked for them, but I only could name maybe 2 hoaxers.
But then, I don’t spend a lot of time in noxious forums where spittle-flecked lunatics obsessively scream and rant about every hoax ever committed in the last several decades, so I’m sure many slip past my attention.
And we should be doing everything to stamp it out. But clearly, it’s low enough that, time and time again, individuals feel the need to manufacture them out of whole cloth in order to bring attention to the problem. One would surmise that if this was an incredible epidemic, such tactics would be unnecessary. We could just point to the actual hate crimes.
But, because the average black or gay person is infinitesimally unlikely to ever experience one (thankfully), we see these continued fabrications.
Yeah… there’s been quite a few. Andy Ngo had a viral thread on Twitter about it if you’re interested.
How the fuck did you decide THAT’s the problem we should be focused on? ELEVEN THOUSAND racist hate crimes a year, and your concern is that a couple people made up stories about being attacked?
Tawana Bradley was in 1987. Since that time there have been, based on 11,000 racist hate crimes a year, almost FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND racist hate crimes. But every scummy little racist wants to talk about Tawana Bradley and not the FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND racist hate crimes that have occurred since then.
WTF is wrong with those people?
I just think we should keep it in perspective, my dude, especially when these hoax hate crimes are used as springboards to launch into lectures about the epidemic of hate crimes caused by “the other side”, when the data just doesn’t bear that out. Hate crime statistics have not seen a dramatic jump; they’ve remained relatively constant over the last 10 years. “It’s not safe to be black or gay in Trump’s America, just look at Jussie Smollet” is a destructive and untruthful message.
Why can’t we all just agree that it’s a terrible thing, hate crimes, and we should be working toward inclusivity and tolerance without this strange demand for instances so strong that we need to fabricate them? And then use them to attack our political opponents. The whole thing is just so odious.
Unless he was able to come up with 400,000 examples of people actually being harmed, then no, I’m not interested.
Tell you what, take the number of examples he comes up with, divide it by (11,000 times the number of years he has to search for examples), and if that number is greater than, let’s say 1%, I’ll read what he has to say.
If that number isn’t greater than 1% then he’s a pathetic simpleton trying to manufacture a problem.
You said 0.03% was a tiny number. What’s the equivalent percentage for hoaxes? I bet you haven’t calculated that number, and I bet you can’t explain why. I also bet it’s so small that it rounds to zero. I also bet you spend way too much of your life worrying about it.
So…basically what you’re doing, just from the other side?
At least those people have ELEVEN THOUSAND real hate crimes a year to worry about. How many real crimes do you base your opinion on?
You shouldn’t have to pay people to beat you up and claim it was Trump’s rhetoric, and have the media jump all over it to smear and cry on Late Night about the epidemic of hate and racism and homophobia. If it’s such a major, widespread problem, we should just be reacting to the actual crimes.
But as I said earlier, the chances of it happening are so minuscule that people are propelled into fabricating these crimes themselves. That should reassure you.
Let me also just point out that 100% of the “hate crime hoaxes” I’ve heard about were blown up into national news by right-wing media. They’ll take some minor incident that maybe got reported in a small town newspaper somewhere and turn it into a nationwide story to get the racists riled up.
If you think that sort of thing is “odious” then you need to start the clean up on your side of the aisle, 'cause that’s where most of the mess is.
So you’re OK with fighting hate crimes as long as we don’t blame them on the toxic political climate. What are we blaming it on then? Just your average garden-variety racism, bigotry and their father, ignorance? And we’re not supposed to care that those folks are a significant part of “the other side’s” base?
I asked you before and you didn’t respond: How many hoaxers are there as a percentage of the population?
Because we know that you think that 0.03% is a small number because that’s only ELEVEN THOUSAND HATE CRIMES a year.
So how many hoaxes are there a year, that you think it’s such a big problem? 'Cause the way you’re going on about it, it must be more than 0.03%. If you don’t know, then take a guess…5%?
I’ll agree actual hate crimes outnumber the hoax ones by a large margin. It’s just the feeding frenzy and the passion to forcefully demonstrate an epidemic that, statistically, doesn’t exist that I find so odious. Not happy about 2,400 per year that black men and women find themselves the targets of hate crimes. Not happy about that at all. But there’s this incredible demand to demonstrate that a statistically small problem is a widespread epidemic. And then use it as a launching pad to pillory political opponents. That’s a phenomenon that bothers me as well.
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If 13,000 a year is a “statistically small problem”, then how would you describe the much much much much smaller number of hoaxes? A “statistically basically zero” problem? That doesn’t sound like much of a problem.
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From what I’ve seen, it’s the right wing media that turns this “statistically basically zero” problem into “a launching pad to pillory political opponents”. Why don’t you address the people causing the problem, which is the right wing media? If you want to point a finger, why are you so resistant to point the finger at the right people?
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Pick any newspaper article about this incident that has unfiltered comments. What percentage of the comments do you think will be nasty racist right-wing filth? 100%? 95%? That seems like a pretty big problem given that we have THIRTEEN THOUSAND ANTI-BLACK HATE CRIMES A YEAR. Why don’t you go complain about that?