# Just a friendly reminder

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 9, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314 "2007-03-09T21:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/21 "2007-03-10T04:21:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux]  
A message from the state of Arizona:  
😛  
[/QUOTE]  
Oh how this Hoosier envys you. This is my first “spring forward” in over 20 years. I’d prefer to not play.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/22 "2007-03-10T04:23:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Savannah]  
I’m just ticked that Canada is doing this in just because the Americans are. Sheesh, why can’t we think for ourselves?  
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Sure! You’re all just too darn polite to actually refuse when Uncle Sam suggested it.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/23 "2007-03-10T13:53:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Mindfield]  
Well, yeah, you could … but you’ll have to reset it again in three weeks when Windows obeys its own internal command to “spring forward.” (Likewise, the reverse will be true in the fall, and for the years that follow)

The patch isn’t a big deal. Answer a few questions, download the file and just run it. It does all the dirty work itself and then you can just ignore it. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Oh, _okay_…

grumble, grumble, grumble…

😃

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**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/24 "2007-03-10T14:02:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux]  
A message from the state of Arizona:  
😛  
[/QUOTE]

Seriously. What in the world are they talking about?

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/25 "2007-03-10T14:17:32Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Thanks! There’s no way I would have remembered that. Why is it so early this year?  
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Because the Government of the USA, in its infinite ‘wisdom’, :rolleyes:, somehow figured that more energy would be saved if they shifted the dates for the time change, thus causing tons of hassles to IT departments and all sorts of other folks. Given that this genius plan was the product of the same luminaries that brought us the ‘war’ on ‘terror’, the Katrina debacle, and other such Great Moments in Time, it’s unsurprising that this is idiotic. Heaven forfend that they would actually conduct any sort of [study](http://tinyurl.com/2oulpz) to find out if their theory held water.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/26 "2007-03-11T13:46:36Z")

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Hmm…so yesterday I went to the Microsoft site and it asked me a few questions and told me I didn’t need to download anything, based on my Operating System and lack of Outlook.

And this morning my clock reads just fine.

Y2K, indeed. Fess up - IT guys like to instill a little panic once in a while to justify their existence, don’t they? 😃

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/27 "2007-03-11T14:19:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
Given that this genius plan was the product of the same luminaries that brought us the ‘war’ on ‘terror’, the Katrina debacle, and other such Great Moments in Time, it’s unsurprising that this is idiotic. Heaven forfend that they would actually conduct any sort of [study](http://tinyurl.com/2oulpz) to find out if their theory held water.  
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Thanks for the link. You answered my GQ question. But since DST has been around since 1918, how can you blame GWB? All the Congress did was shift it by three weeks…they didn’t invent the damn thing.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/28 "2007-03-11T14:59:06Z")

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Just a bump to keep this front page for our west coast Dopers. BTW, my computer (IBM clone) changed the time just fine on it’s own. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/29 "2007-03-11T15:09:41Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Hmm…so yesterday I went to the Microsoft site and it asked me a few questions and told me I didn’t need to download anything, based on my Operating System and lack of Outlook.

And this morning my clock reads just fine.

Y2K, indeed. Fess up - IT guys like to instill a little panic once in a while to justify their existence, don’t they? 😃  
[/QUOTE]

You probably have automatic updates turned on, which would have automatically downloaded the DST '07 update.

Fortunately my Windows machine, my PPC and my Palm all updated as they should have – though for some reason my 680 updated an hour later than my wife’s 650. _shrug_ My alarms all worked anyway. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LucyInDisguise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucyindisguise/32/18064_2.png) [@LucyInDisguise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LucyInDisguise)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/30 "2007-03-11T15:51:20Z")

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Hate, _Hate_, _ **Hate** _, _ **Hate** _ Daylight Silly Time.

Make that loathe.

Make that … (Damn - what’s higher on the ‘hate scale’ than loathe?)

Suggested Permanent Compromise: Just move it one half hour and leave it that way and stop screwing around with my (already too little)sleep time!

Maybe I oughta go start a pit thread. This is one subject that _ **really** _ requires some stronger language.

Lucy

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/31 "2007-03-11T16:03:08Z")

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Odd, we have two OS X machines running the same everything. One of them galloped up as it should have, and the other not so much. For some reason the one (both set for automatic time from Cupertino) thinks that Vancouver and Seattle are an hour apart, but the other machine is fine with Canada DST. For now I’m just going to let it think it’s in Seattle.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/32 "2007-03-11T16:19:07Z")

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I love DST. (Sorry, Lucy!) Now I have time for long hikes and bike rides after work.

Not only that, but Spring starts next week. I feel myself coming out of hibernation…Yee-haw!

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/33 "2007-03-11T16:28:44Z")

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[QUOTE=The New and Improved Superman]  
IDaylight savings time comes early - like this weekend! [March 11th](http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html). Saturday night, set your clock ahead an hour (spring forward, fall back.)  
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Offer not valid in Europe. We’ll still be changing the clocks ahead on the last Sunday of March, as God intended.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/34 "2007-03-11T16:39:32Z")

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My computer changed time; I must have gotten an auto update somewhere along the line.

As for saving energy, I did hear a story on NPR that suggested the big winners in Daylight Saving Time are… oil companies.

That’s right. With the ‘extra’ hour of light after work, people tend to get in their cars and drive more. And shop more. Consume more.

Me, I plan to garden more with my ‘extra’ daylight.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/35 "2007-03-11T16:42:48Z")

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I had a friend in the US who never could get that old adage straight. He kept thinking, “Fall forward, spring back.”

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/36 "2007-03-11T16:47:19Z")

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[QUOTE=ivylass]  
Thanks for the link. You answered my GQ question. But since DST has been around since 1918, how can you blame GWB? All the Congress did was shift it by three weeks…they didn’t invent the damn thing.  
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I’m blaming them for the earlier shift. Sunrise tomorrow will be 6:21 - an awful lot of people get up at 6 to go to work. Two days ago, they got up in light. Now they’ll be getting up and turning their lights on again.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/37 "2007-03-11T16:49:10Z")

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All the poor saps working the graveyard shift welcome it. An hour less work. Of course, it’s an hour more come October, but still …

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/38 "2007-03-11T16:53:48Z")

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I’ve never understood the opposition to DST. We don’t have it here, and we didn’t have it in Hawaii, because we don’t need it. But we had it where I grew up and spent many of my young-adult years. I never thought it a burden. Nor did I know anyone who thought it a burden. Have to get up in the dark? Oh boo hoo hoo, what a cruel world. That’s puts you on a par with starving Ethiopians, I guess, as far as hardship goes. If it saves energy and money, I’m all for continuing it.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/39 "2007-03-11T17:12:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Siam Sam]  
I’ve never understood the opposition to DST. We don’t have it here, and we didn’t have it in Hawaii, because we don’t need it. But we had it where I grew up and spent many of my young-adult years. I never thought it a burden. Nor did I know anyone who thought it a burden. Have to get up in the dark? Oh boo hoo hoo, what a cruel world. That’s puts you on a par with starving Ethiopians, I guess, as far as hardship goes. If it saves energy and money, I’m all for continuing it.  
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I’m opposed to it because it’s an unnecessary nuisance, not because of any problem with getting up or going to bed in the dark. I’m opposed to it for the same reason that I’d be opposed to a requirement to wear green underwear on St. Patrick’s Day - not because it would be a burden but simply because it would be a nuisance.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-a-friendly-reminder/395314/40 "2007-03-11T17:24:47Z")

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If making everyone wear green undies on Saint Paddy’s Day was shown to save energy and money, then I’d be in favor of making you do that, too. Fortunately for you, that has yet to be proved.

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