# Just another example of Bush family values **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 27, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751 "2003-05-27T13:09:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/1 "2003-05-27T13:09:12Z")
[http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles5/Berkowitz\_Neil-Bush.htm](http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles5/Berkowitz_Neil-Bush.htm) Neil Bush, the brother that nobody ever mentions, has left his wife of 23 years and their three children to take up with a recently divorced woman who was once an assistant to his mother. According to the radio news, Neil’s house is up for sale and his wife and three children had no place to live. Fortunately, George Sr. and Barbara are buying a house for their soon-to-be-ex daughter-in-law and three grandchildren. They can live there until the youngest child is 18. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/2 "2003-05-27T13:11:22Z")
Well, as much as I dislike Pres. Bush, I’d hate to be blamed for things my _sister_ did. ---
**Author:** ![Fin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@Fin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fin_man)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/3 "2003-05-27T13:12:13Z")
I’m far from a Bush supporter but what’s the big deal. A married man with three children decides to get a divorce. That never happens in America. Wait wait, the kids are getting screwed. Nope, that never happens either. But George Sr. and Barbara are buying them a house. To me, that sounds like good family values to me - taking care of their own. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/4 "2003-05-27T13:24:59Z")
After all the S&L depositors’ money Neil Bush looted, he still can’t afford a house? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/5 "2003-05-27T13:25:41Z")
Sorry, but this OP is crass. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/6 "2003-05-27T13:27:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Annie-Xmas \* > \*\* Fortunately, George Sr. and Barbara are buying a house for their soon-to-be-ex daughter-in-law and three grandchildren. They can live there until the youngest child is 18. \*\* I don’t like the Bush family, but thems sound like good values to me. They’re not gonna let the kids be homeless. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/7 "2003-05-27T13:43:44Z")
Well, the _grandparents_ aren’t gonna let them be homeless, but their father appears to be a different story. I think _that’s_ the point of the OP, that turning one’s three children out with nowhere to go because you want to boink someone else isn’t exactly good family values. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/8 "2003-05-27T13:52:24Z")
I hear there’s a porno tape of one of W’s lush daughters floating around the Yale campus somewhere. Let’s hope it turns up on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/9 "2003-05-27T13:53:35Z")
And, of course, the President is an ass because his brother, a grown man, made a decision that has absolutely nothing to do with George W. Why can’t you punish the man on his own merits instead of hammering on his family? For the record, by the way, I never hammered on Roger Clinton. With a target as big as Bill was, I didn’t need to. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/10 "2003-05-27T13:57:15Z")
Well W’s brother did commit one of the largest cases of fraud in US history and got away with it because of his daddy. This family obviouly does feel like they’re above the law and that they don’t have to be treated like everbody else. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/11 "2003-05-27T14:03:24Z")
Hey, why not dig up Billy Carter all over again? Or Clinton’s Mom? Hell, why not just shout ‘Chappaquidick’ at Ted Kennedy just for old times sake. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/12 "2003-05-27T14:04:35Z")
Or Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/13 "2003-05-27T15:18:18Z")
::shrug:: That’s no crazier than the shit that goes on with my friends’ parents. So Bush has a brother who’s being a dick? Big deal; it isn’t his fault. Besides, if we wanna Bush-bash, it’s not as though he hasn’t given us lefties and the like plenty of legitimate and relevant ammo already. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/14 "2003-05-27T15:19:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*I hear there’s a porno tape of one of W’s lush daughters floating around the Yale campus somewhere. Let’s hope it turns up on the internet. \*\* I find this absolutely repulsive. Such horrible rumours about a pair of girls whose only fault is that they’re fun-loving students and have a famous father have no place whatsoever in civilized society. I am disgusted. And if you come across any such video, it’s [andros@bossig.com](mailto:andros@bossig.com). ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/15 "2003-05-27T16:01:29Z")
Neil Bush is clearly pond scum, but I can’t see the point in holding Dubya responsible. The Shrub’s got plenty of sins of his own; there’s no need to hit him with guilt by association. Except of course when he _chooses_ the association, like when Falwell was at the White House earlier this year. But you can’t choose your sibs. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/16 "2003-05-27T16:41:43Z")
I think the issue here is that the Bush family, as a whole, bangs the drum of “family values”, then proceeds to behave as though those values somehow don’t apply to them. Neil’s indiscretion is the latest in a series of sins that each member of the family has had to endure. Robin ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/17 "2003-05-27T17:05:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*I hear there’s a porno tape of one of W’s lush daughters floating around the Yale campus somewhere. Let’s hope it turns up on the internet. \*\* When you say “lush” do you mean it (as in the British slang) “gorgeous/fit/yummy/sexy” - or “drunk”? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/18 "2003-05-27T17:10:59Z")
My dislike of your current president is intense. However, I really don’t see that this has any bearing on the man himself. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/19 "2003-05-27T17:11:19Z")
As a “card-carrying Bush-basher” myself, I think we should lay off this one. As Gore Vidal once wrote, before we can play the cards we draw, we have to play the cards we’ve been dealt by fate–our family. And, as Al Gore’s cousin, he should know all about the pitfalls of being a politician’s relative. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751/20 "2003-05-27T17:13:59Z")
The more I read about him, the more convinced I am that George H. W. Bush is actually a damn decent guy. Too bad it didn’t rub off on his son. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-another-example-of-bush-family-values/177751.md?page=2)