# Just calm down. Yes, I mean you.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 4, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937 "2004-11-04T05:56:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/1 "2004-11-04T05:56:17Z")

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Bush supporters: Your guy won. That does not mean **you** won. Stop with the personal insults. You are being **rude**.

Kerry supporters: Your guy lost. That does not mean that the fate of the country is lost\*. Stop with the wailing and rending of garments. You are being very poor sports.

\*No, it really doesn’t. Bush is surrounded by smart people. And if you have more to say on the subject, confine it to GD or other Pit threads.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/2 "2004-11-04T06:05:45Z")

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Exactly.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/3 "2004-11-04T06:08:06Z")

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Right on!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/4 "2004-11-04T06:32:13Z")

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No, dammit!

Oh, wait. You weren’t talking to me.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/5 "2004-11-04T07:01:52Z")

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Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) Bush has driven me further and further to the left.

The thing is, **Rilchiam** , your OP is exactly the sort of thing I would have written four years ago. In a sea of liberals (when I lived overseas not a single one of my friends was a Republican), I was the only moderate Democrat there. When Bush won, I didn’t bitch or complain or claim the sky was falling. After all, one of the advantages of a two-party system is that it has to appeal to the center. Democrat or Republican, there can’t be too much deviance from the status quo. I tried my best to calm my friends’ Henny Penny tendencies.

However, the four years of Bush have proved to be one disappointment after another to me, and the administration has become _far_ more insiduous and un-American than I thought possible. I truly believe it’s a morally bankrupt and corrupt administration, and it had more than a benefit of a doubt from me to begin with.

So forgive me if I’m a bit alarmed at the results.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/6 "2004-11-04T07:15:05Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> So forgive me if I’m a bit alarmed at the results.

I’m sure you are. But my OP was not directed at people who are “a bit alarmed”, It was directed at the people who are being just. plain. nasty. Even for the Pit, some people are going too far.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/7 "2004-11-04T07:16:08Z")

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And what about people who don’t support either one of the sons of bitches?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/8 "2004-11-04T07:21:03Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> And what about people who don’t support either one of the sons of bitches?

If it doesn’t inspire them to personal attacks or temper tantrums, then okay, so they don’t. But if it does, they also need to take a pill.

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/9 "2004-11-04T15:02:30Z")

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**Rilch** , thanks! Seriously. Thank you! Now if they’ll only listen…

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/10 "2004-11-04T15:18:56Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Bush supporters: Your guy won. That does not mean **you** won. Stop with the personal insults. You are being **rude**.
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> Kerry supporters: Your guy lost. That does not mean that the fate of the country is lost\*. Stop with the wailing and rending of garments. You are being very poor sports.
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> \*No, it really doesn’t. Bush is surrounded by smart people. And if you have more to say on the subject, confine it to GD or other Pit threads.

You’re right, but as someone else said, it’s only been two days. Give people a week.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/11 "2004-11-04T15:38:46Z")

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> [@Elenia28](#):
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> You’re right, but as someone else said, it’s only been two days. Give people a week.

I think that would have been me. Yesterday I was in the “Let people rant” camp. Today, however, I’m more in the “Chill already” camp. I’ve eaten enough hateful rhetoric and I think I’m full already.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/12 "2004-11-04T15:45:35Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> \*No, it really doesn’t. Bush is surrounded by smart people. And if you have more to say on the subject, confine it to GD or other Pit threads.

Bah. All I know is he’s surrounded by a bunch of smart people whose agenda condradicts almost everything I believe in.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/13 "2004-11-04T15:49:11Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> And what about people who don’t support either one of the sons of bitches?

That’s just how I feel damn near all the time. It’s too often not a matter of who is better, but who is less fucked up.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/14 "2004-11-04T15:50:35Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I think that would have been me. Yesterday I was in the “Let people rant” camp. Today, however, I’m more in the “Chill already” camp. I’ve eaten enough hateful rhetoric and I think I’m full already.

You know, I think it was.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/15 "2004-11-04T15:51:57Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Bah. All I know is he’s surrounded by a bunch of smart people whose agenda condradicts almost everything I believe in.

_contradicts_

Was I having some Freudian slip about Condi Rice?

\<sideshow Bob shudder\>

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/16 "2004-11-04T16:00:54Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Was I having some Freudian slip about Condi Rice?

Well, she IS hot! Yowsa.  
Oh yeah, fuck all of y’all, man.\*

_not so much a rant as a goal_\*

\*\*I can hardly believe my luck in getting to use this twice!

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/17 "2004-11-04T16:06:30Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I think that would have been me. Yesterday I was in the “Let people rant” camp. Today, however, I’m more in the “Chill already” camp. I’ve eaten enough hateful rhetoric and I think I’m full already.

This isn’t directed just at tdn.

Avoid the threads, people. If you see a thread titled something like “Bush licks donkey cock” here’s a hint… DON’T OPEN IT!!!1!!!1!!!

I don’t understand it. I do it too (click on threads I know will piss me off), but I don’t bitch about it… I just move on to something else.

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**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/18 "2004-11-04T16:10:50Z")

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I am convinced that the only sane people left at the SDMB are currently posting in this thread.

I put up a post yesterday in another thread that essentially said the same thing **Rilch** did, and you’d have thought I believed the moon landing was a hoax. :rolleyes:

Both sides could use an extra-strength dose of shut-the-hell-up.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/19 "2004-11-04T16:11:59Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> …just move on…

From this week’s Onion: “MoveOn CurlsUp InCorner”

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/20 "2004-11-04T16:21:33Z")

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Yesterday I had a student who was in a storming rage because she believed that Bush having won the election will mean that for the second time, she will get a degree and not a job. She was ‘fucking pissed off’ that he won, because that’s the only reason that she was unemployed after the 2000 election, and it will be the only reason she’s unemployed after graduating in March.

However, she fails to see her own responsibility in her status as unemployed. She is incapable of going more than 2 minutes 30 seconds without asking a question like ‘Is this the right font to use?’ or ‘Is this shade of blue OK?’ This is woman in her mid-twenties who can’t make a single decision for herself, like where to get gas, what courses to take, or whether Times New Roman is an acceptable font to use when writing an essay, without consulting someone else.

Count me in with the ‘get over the hysterical gloating and/or bitching, already.’ camp. The world will not end because your guy lost, nor will it be roses and sunishine because your guy won. We’re all just going to have to keep on trucking and live our daily lives.

Oh, and stop asking me questions every 2.5 minutes.

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