# Just calm down. Yes, I mean you.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 4, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937 "2004-11-04T05:56:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/21 "2004-11-04T16:41:17Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> That does not mean that the fate of the country is lost\*. …Bush is surrounded by smart people.

That has been the case for the last 4 years, and look where it’s gotten us.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/22 "2004-11-04T20:20:03Z")

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In the wee hours of Election Night, when the outcome became indisputable, when the howling of the defeated – **Dio** , have you come down from the ceiling yet? – collided with the gloating of the winners – **Bricker** , are you still proud of yourself? – one Doper stood out. One Doper often dismissed as a right-wing tool with a talking-points memo where his brain should be. One Doper who, alas, tends to live down to that image when he gets too riled by a debate. One Doper I’ve defended many times, and many times been asked “Why the hell do you waste your time sticking up for HIM?”

Well, [this is why](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5446950):

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> This afternoon Britt Hume was talking about how even though the polls were hours from closing, the buzz throughout the news community was that the election was looking very good for Kerry. Then I turned to CNN and Judy Woodruff was flitting around like a schoolgirl, all smiles and energy. I thought “Fuck, Kerry’s actually gonna win.” Then I thought about my online self and hoped I’d be able to handle it graciously and with a cheerful, positive, upbeat attitude…
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> you know, like **rjung** has.
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> Bigtime kudos to you, sir! I’d a never thunk it. You are truly to be congratulated, especially given the depth of your anti-Bush passion. My estimation of you, for whatever that’s worth, has increased a thousand fold. I don’t know when I’ve been so pleasantly surprised by such a classy display of guts and positive attitude in the threads you have contributed to tonight.
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> Again, kudos to you, sir.
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> And to my friends here on the other side of the aisle politically, I know you’re terribly dissappointed, hurt and saddened. I got a little taste this afternoon of what you must be feeling now and it isn’t fun. I feel no desire to gloat; instead I find myself wishing that somehow political issues could be resolved without anyone having to lose. You are all in my thoughts. You are some of the best people I know and I’ve learned much and become a better person because of you.
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> My regards to you all.

That, dear people, is a class act.

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**Author:** ![smartini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@smartini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smartini)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/23 "2004-11-04T20:35:11Z")

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> [@Chastain86](#):
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> Both sides could use an extra-strength dose of shut-the-hell-up.

Some need to take a _loading dose_😃

\*better life through chemistry – I know I feel much better now 🙂 \*

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/24 "2004-11-04T22:01:42Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Kerry supporters: You are being very poor sports.

That might apply if we were playing a game.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/25 "2004-11-04T22:07:13Z")

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I haven’t gloated. I’ve tried to be gracious.

However, I’ve seen other Dopers slap away the hand that’s held out to them.

Give it time.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/26 "2004-11-05T00:25:50Z")

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Good points, all. But again I say, rant if you must, but stop with the personal insults. Well, maybe they have stopped by now; I’ve been out all day. But certain things were said that didn’t have to be said, and they upset me, so I started this thread.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-calm-down-yes-i-mean-you/272937/27 "2004-11-05T03:35:13Z")

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From one possible class act to a definite one, thank you very much. As I’ve said before, I’m honored to count you as a friend. You’ve done much for me both here and offline, and I appreciate it (and you) much more than you know. 🙂

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