# Just curious how drowning a bunch of kids can be considered God's will
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**Created:** [July 15, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860 "2025-07-15T01:00:51Z")
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### Author:  [@CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CC)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/1 "2025-07-15T01:00:51Z")
So, I presume the folks who ran that camp in Texas are trying to figure out how it was that God saw fit to drown a bunch of little kids. They were at a Christian camp, clearly a setting with a powerful religious ethic. Yet, in the middle of the night, these babies were swept away by dark, swirling torrents of water and drowned. A horrendous event. So, how do these oh, so religious people explain such a catastrophe? Were the girls all evil? The Devil reincarnate somehow all assembled in one campsite? Well, we’ll hear that God works in mysterious ways. Ways we are not given to know. Just remember that when something this horrific happens, it’s simply God’s will. Nice God you have there.
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/2 "2025-07-15T01:05:01Z")
Which one?
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/3 "2025-07-15T01:08:53Z")
So, is this ranting about something the people who ran the camp actually did, or is this just a self-Pitting of how bigoted you are against anyone who believes in a deity?
(For the record, I tried finding something from the camp, a statement after the fact that might bolster this viewpoint, and came up with nothing.)
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/4 "2025-07-15T01:41:58Z")
I see no bigotry here. God has a plan for everyone. Everything happens according to God’s plan. Dozens of innocent little girls died.
What am I suppose to conclude?
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### Author:  [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/5 "2025-07-15T01:49:16Z")
Everything I’ve read about this God figure makes him seem like a right bastard. Drowning children would be right up his alley (reportedly, he’s done this kind of thing before).
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/6 "2025-07-15T01:49:34Z")
The person who owned the camp died trying to save kids.
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I see no bigotry here.
How MAGA of you.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/7 "2025-07-15T01:49:39Z")
Are we now waiting on the Camp, Abbot, Noem, the state of Texas, or Trump to say this?
The parents? (umm, I hope not)
Or maybe the Church association that supports the camp?
The offended other religions in the area?
The group of teens at the park?
A homeless guy passing by?
A drive thru lady at the bank?
We all know, some may not care, but we really all know dying children is bad. Always bad.
Silly pit.
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### Author:  [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/8 "2025-07-15T01:52:25Z")
God doesn’t have to explain himself to you or anyone else. Thats the answer he gave Job. That’s what people will say.
It’s not a good answer.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/9 "2025-07-15T01:55:10Z")
How very curious. MAGA would bend themselves into pretzels to excuse God from any responsibility.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/10 "2025-07-15T01:56:47Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> We all know, some may not care, but we really all know dying children is bad. Always bad.
Then the only biblically consistent conclusion is that god is bad.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/11 "2025-07-15T01:57:33Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> MAGA would bend themselves into pretzels to excuse God from any responsibility.
MAGA are also too bigoted to recognize bigotry.
This thread is simply attacking families who lost children because they have a belief different from the OP. (After all, they are Christians too.) This is disgusting shit I’d expect from Alex Jones.
So yeah, I think a MAGA comparison is pretty apt.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/12 "2025-07-15T01:57:43Z")
It seems to be fake outrage(the OP, not the flood they were ill-prepared for)
I don’t need any more rage about this event. Adding this OP is just fanning flames.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/13 "2025-07-15T01:58:29Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Then the only biblically consistent conclusion is that god is bad.
Or that the death of children, being part of God’s plan, is, by definition, good.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/14 "2025-07-15T01:58:57Z")
Also true.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/15 "2025-07-15T02:00:59Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Or that the death of children, being part of God’s plan, is, by definition, good.
Since God created everything, everything is God’s plan, including sin, so everyone goes to Heaven, and there’s no need for Christianity.
Makes sense?
Or, maybe, that’s not what Christianity says, and is just ignorant.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/16 "2025-07-15T02:02:52Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Or, maybe, that’s not what Christianity says, and is just ignorant.
Take it up with Calvinism.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/17 "2025-07-15T02:06:00Z")
Oooh. Someone gonna call the Pope.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/18 "2025-07-15T02:10:01Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Take it up with Calvinism.
Calvinism does not equal Christianity.
If there were really people involved with the camp who were trying to excuse the tragedy by using that logic I’d fully endorse this Pitting.
Instead, all I see is, “I don’t like Christians and imagine that they’re okay with this.”
It comes off as a ghoulish snipe against people who went through something terrible. It’s reprehensible.
This is the reality:
> **[After Camp Owner Died Helping Campers in Texas Flood, His Grieving Family Is...](https://people.com/camp-owner-died-helping-campers-family-trying-make-sense-texas-flood-tragedy-11770932)**
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> The family of Dick and Tweety Eastland, the owners of Camp Mystic, where at least 27 died during the devastating Texas floods, is focusing on helping the families of campers and counselors while trying to process their own grief.
As opposed to the OP’s blood libel.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/19 "2025-07-15T02:10:27Z")
> [@CC](#):
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> Were the girls all evil?
Presumably; that’s the explanation I’ve seen for the past of why God drowned babies in Noah’s Flood. “They were evil babies!”
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-curious-how-drowning-a-bunch-of-kids-can-be-considered-gods-will/1020860/20 "2025-07-15T02:24:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Calvinism does not equal Christianity
What does equal Christianity?
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