# Just Fucking Leave Already If You're Going To

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 19, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293 "2004-03-19T21:56:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/81 "2004-03-22T12:17:54Z")

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I’m not fat, it’s burger retention.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/82 "2004-03-22T12:25:02Z")

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And I’m not elitist. It’s booger retention.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/83 "2004-03-22T13:51:50Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> :: applauds ::
> 
> Can I suggest a “Politics Only” forum? _All_ rants, GDs, IMHOs, CS, MPSIMS, etc threads that have to do with politics would be required to be posted in the Politics forum. The rest of us could then ignore it.
> 
> Before you say “No”, think about this: if it’s _this_ bad now, how much _worse_ is it gonna be in 5 months or so?
> 
> Fenris

Just to show there’s real diversity out there in SD land…

Do you have any idea how **much** I’m looking forward to this?

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/84 "2004-03-22T14:05:49Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> And I’m not elitist. It’s booger retention.

I have a cat named Booger that I don’t want to retain…

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/85 "2004-03-23T01:51:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Is there such a thing as a non-masturbatory wankfest?

Yes, but that was back in my college days.

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/86 "2004-03-23T02:39:41Z")

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I’m finally back in touch with my Cranky side and the boards are as slow as a colon after a sausage tasting. Goddamnit, leave already so I can be crabby without delays.

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/87 "2004-03-23T02:42:41Z")

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> [@China Guy](#):
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> Hell, I’ll go out on a limb and say this thread is one of the reasons I’m staying. I was just gonna pile on the ol “don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out” school of thought, but Kal’s “miss me” and Tar’s “go to hell” highlight the adolescent humor that enlivens a jet lagged China Guy’s afternoon as he kills time reading the SDMB before heading home. Not to mention the poster that said it’s only $5 fricking dollars in an early post on page one and in a much more eloquent way than I could have. To miss all this for five clams would be absurd.

Dude, I’d pay $5 to keep you around. Your advice on keeping a baby happy on an overseas flight is worth four times that.

Seriously. Email me and its done.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/88 "2004-03-23T03:01:12Z")

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> [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](#):
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> Dude, I’d pay $5 to keep you around. Your advice on keeping a baby happy on an overseas flight is worth four times that.
> 
> Seriously. Email me and its done.

Thanks for the offer Cranky, but I already sold a kidney and did the visa thing. It’s probably just after work hours and no one to process my order before a new work day tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/89 "2004-03-24T14:53:51Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> I got no problem with the number of threads going on in all the forums, although it is excessive, I’m waiting to see how one seeps into Cafe Society.

> [@Ashkicker](#):
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> How about the song “Should I Stay Or Should I Go?” by the Clash. That would almost guarantee you a spot in CS.

What about the song " Don’t go away mad, just go away."

Maybe its not a song, maybe just a line in a song - but it may seem to fit this situation.

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**Author:** ![Stephi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/90 "2004-03-24T15:13:53Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> \*\*TVeblen \*\*'s post about people pissing and moaning because their precious OPs have been locked or merged with others just further drives home the point that people are doing this for the attention just as much, if not moreso, than actually informing any interested parties that they’re departing.

What? People here post just to get attention??? No!!! I would have never thought that could be the case!!! 😉

Seriously though, people really are going batshit over 5 bucks. Sheesh, calm down people, it’s just a message board. It’s not like, real life or anything.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/91 "2004-03-24T15:46:47Z")

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> [@Stephi](#):
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> Seriously though, people really are going batshit over 5 bucks. Sheesh, calm down people, it’s just a message board. It’s not like, real life or anything.

Actually, as **iampunha** has pointed out at least three times, for many people it’s _not_ about the 5 bucks - it’s the idea of pay versus not pay. That’s all. People are entitled to feel a conscience stab if they want; they don’t, however, need to bray to the rest of us that they’re not sticking around on a so-called principle, a crisis of conscience.

If you wish to leave, leave; people aren’t going to think less of you simply because you’re not here. They may, however, think quite a bit less of you if you make a big deal out of leaving. I think that’s what’s rankling some.

And by that same token, if you wish to stay, pony up the cash and stay, but don’t go on and on about how you Paid to Be Here. No one cares. That “Charter Member” title is nothing more than an empty accolade. (And how one ca

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/92 "2004-03-24T15:57:33Z")

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[Due to my own fumbly fingers, I hit Submit a wee early.]

> [@Stephi](#):
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> Seriously though, people really are going batshit over 5 bucks. Sheesh, calm down people, it’s just a message board. It’s not like, real life or anything.

As **iampunha** has pointed out at least three times, for many people it’s not an issue of the amount but rather of pay versus not pay, nothing more. To them, it’s a principled stand. I admire people with principles, but I don’t particularly admire people who make a big deal out of _having_ them.

If you wish to leave, then leave. There’s no need to explain to everyone why you’re leaving. There’s no need to cause a scene. No one cares. We wish you well, but we don’t need to hear you take some kind of so-called moral stand. People won’t think less of you merely because you’re not here; they may, however, think much less of you if you cause a big stink over your own leaving, if you carp about having to pay or some other conscience nonsense.

By the same token, if you wish to remain, pony up the $5 and remain - but please don’t make a big deal out of the fact that You Paid for Something. We don’t care.

I admire people with principles, but I don’t particularly admire those people who take a principled stand for no other reason than to show everyone how morally superior they are.

In short, if you feel you cannot (for whatever reason) pay to stay, then I wish you well. Perhaps we’ll run into one another elsewhere, like the UnaBoard, Fathom, or LJ, and perhaps not. But please realize that whining about the subscription situation - and whining about those who whine about those who whine about that situation - serves no positive purpose that I can see.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/93 "2004-03-24T16:16:28Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Perhaps a vigorous debate over entitlement philosophies will assuage us all.

I’ve found that the entitlement philosophy of the 1960s was challenged by the public response to runaway health care costs. With public opinion firmly against higher costs, employers & the government began efforts to control costs: Shift to more restrictive managed care plans. Shift financial risk to patients & providers.Enter utilization management programs. Payers begin using outcome measurement to select/ restrict providers. These, combined with the death of the ideals of entitlement philosphies in other areas, will remain our status quo until radical changes are made.

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/94 "2004-03-24T16:19:53Z")

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> [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](#):
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> I’m finally back in touch with my Cranky side and the boards are as slow as a colon after a sausage tasting. Goddamnit, leave already so I can be crabby without delays.

I think I just got five dollars worth of satisfaction out of this turn of phrase. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/95 "2004-03-24T16:22:26Z")

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I agree with the OP. Dispense with the drama and just maintain a dignified silence. You all know you’re just going to lurk and eventually come back anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/96 "2004-03-24T16:37:41Z")

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> [@scout1222](#):
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> I think I just got five dollars worth of satisfaction out of this turn of phrase. 🆒

Yeah, but you can READ without PAYING. Did you get $5 worth of satisfaction out of telling her that you were given satisfaction by that turn of phrase? Did you? DID YOU?

Sheesh…get the sex for free and then pay for saying ‘thank you.’ What kind of a john ARE YOU?

And by saying ‘thank you,’ you’re PAYING to GIVE THE CHICAGO READER YOUR CONTENT. Are you blind? That’s no way to do business!

If I could find a way to make the Reader take my agitated, rather than my content, I’d be in in a heartbeat.

Oh wait - paid already. MAN AM I A SUCKER.  
Note: this post is (almost) wholly satirical and should be taken at face value by (almost) no one. If (generic) you would like you be offended, you are allowed to be, and with my blessings.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/97 "2004-03-24T21:10:59Z")

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> [@Hamadryad](#):
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> Yeah, but you can READ without PAYING. Did you get $5 worth of satisfaction out of telling her that you were given satisfaction by that turn of phrase? Did you? DID YOU?
> 
> Sheesh…get the sex for free and then pay for saying ‘thank you.’ What kind of a john ARE YOU?
> 
> And by saying ‘thank you,’ you’re PAYING to GIVE THE CHICAGO READER YOUR CONTENT. Are you blind? That’s no way to do business!
> 
> If I could find a way to make the Reader take my agitated, rather than my content, I’d be in in a heartbeat.
> 
> Oh wait - paid already. MAN AM I A SUCKER.  
> Note: this post is (almost) wholly satirical and should be taken at face value by (almost) no one. If (generic) you would like you be offended, you are allowed to be, and with my blessings.

I’m only posting here so Hamadryad doesn’t feel she killed the thread. And I want some of those sausages Cranky was talking about!

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-fucking-leave-already-if-youre-going-to/235293/98 "2004-03-24T22:48:31Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Perhaps a vigorous debate over entitlement philosophies will assuage us all.

> [@gingerofthenorth](#):
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> And I want some of those sausages Cranky was talking about!

Did anyone else notice that _assuage_ is an anagram of _sausage_?

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