Nuke him from orbit! Only way to be sure…
Obviously, the correct answer is: pull up within arm’s length of him and barrel roll out the door while shooting.
Perhaps ascertain that he wasn’t an innocent bystander with a gun trying to fend off the shooter? You know, all those citizens who say they’d jump in and take out a shooter in a movie theater or mall?
Since the 911 call wasn’t fully communicated to the officers (the call said it was maybe a juvenile with a toy gun, but the officers weren’t told that. They thought it was an adult with a real gun), when they saw it was kid, maybe they could stop for a moment and consider he wasn’t the person they were looking for? Imagine if he hadn’t been- if he was a random kid with an air soft toy in his pocket, orange cap intact, and they shot him in error?
Taking a beat and making sure you’re shooting the right person is worth it too, even if you don’t think it’s worth it to try to diffuse the actual situation.
Tell me what you think of what I wrote, first. You didn’t react to anything in my post, it seems like.
I’d like to hear an answer to this question too, since there seems to be a lot of ducking around it and fighting the hypothetical instead of straight answers.
I seem to recall hearing this exact same narrative a few months ago, about a racist cop who executed an innocent black teenager in the street who hadn’t done anything wrong, simply because he woke up on the wrong side of the bed and felt like killing him a Negro today.
Then the facts came out.
What kind of training or advice do you think this kid’s parents gave him? If none, why not?
Apparently, he didn’t rob the convenience store. He paid for those cigars, and replaced several when he didn’t have the money for more. Neither the store owner nor the clerk called the police, which you’d expect if the store had been robbed. Instead, it was a customer who called it in.
The homeless and the mentally ill too. Cops can be very abusive and disdainful towards anyone they know society doesn’t value.
So you’re saying that when Dorian Johnson, Brown’s friend who was with him at the time of the shooting, testified to the grand jury that Brown stole the cigarillos (relevant section begins page 32) he was lying?
I’m going to need you to explain why Brown’s best friend felt a need to posthumously slander his best friend in the middle of trying to defend his reputation and character.
Fuck if I know, and I refuse to speculate. People who have seen the entire recording say that it appears to them that Brown paid, despite the minor altercation.
How about YOU provide a reason why the store owner says that neither he nor any of his employees called 911 to report a robbery?
It’s not uncommon to not call the cops over petty theft.
Somewhere, Joseph Houseman is smiling.
The answer to that question requires one to analyze the whole scenario, not just the bits and pieces of time and action that support your conclusion. There is a lot of blank space between “pulling up a report” and “gun supposedly being pulled out of waistband” that you and he just don’t seem to want to go over, for some reason. If you, and he, want to discuss the answer to that question, you have to be willing to discuss what happened in that time period between the report and the shooting.
With many threads about this and many, many desperate and stupid posts trying to come to MB’s defense, yours are perhaps the most desperate and most stupid. Well done. And that you can’t seem to fathom a very sensible answer to the question you ask here indicates that you are intent on staying king of that hill. Keep up the good work!
Because other 12-year olds in the United States are capable of having real guns loaded with real bullets that are capable of leaving other people dead, 12-year olds that are playing with toys should be capable of making the decision not to use them in a threatening manner around armed police officers. Otherwise their parents are whatever adults are responsible for them should make sure those 12-year olds are supervised at all times.
Maybe because they expect stuff like this to happen.
What I want to discuss is when you believe a cop is allowed to defend himself. How many shots is the armed suspect allowed to get off before the cops are allowed to shoot back?
Would you call after a 6’4" 290 pound delinquent bullied you, or would you be afraid of repercussions?
I think it missed the point honestly, because your underlying assumption appears to be that cops need to be shot at, wounded and bleeding before they can pull their weapons. That’s as far from the reality as is the point that many here are expressing, along the lines that they (the cops) drove up and opened fire for shits and giggles.
Now, please tell me the circumstances under which you believe police are allowed to defend themself with lethal force? Must they wait for the other party to shoot first?