Man, 20mg of Ritalin ramps me up like crazy for the entire day, and I can’t sleep until the wee hours of the morning. Adderall’s even worse. I feel like superman on that stuff for about fourteen hours, then like crap for the rest of my sleepless day.
I’m glad they seem to be helping for you; I’m personally a little amazed at the ease with which doctors hand out meth. I mean (no slight intended), of COURSE people feel better when taking it, concentrate better, and feel more productive.
He actually told me to follow this course of treatment. To start w/ 10mg per dose the first day and see how I tolerate it. Then go up to 15mg the next day and 20mg the next to see how I do on it. He said that I could then play with the dosage to see what worked best for me. So far 20mg has been great and I haven’t had any real adverse effects.
I have a follow up appointment with him next Monday to see how everything is going.
You’re stoned, its great isn’t it. I couldn’t do diff-eq’s unless I was stoned off my ass. Acid made it even easier. Toss in a few beers and I could rebuild a car in 6 hours.
Never met a meth/speed user that could fall asleep. They are always totally focused on stealing your stuff for the next fix.
With drawl’s suck
Haven’t met a fat speed freak yet.
Of course you are, you met a doctor for 45 minutes, he gave you a heavy narcotic(meth that you don’t have to smoke), you’re stoned and happy and you’ll keep going back to him. He gets money, you get wasted, everybody is happy.
That was a purely dick response, realize what you are getting into, and what you are taking. Its not a happy pill, its an addictive heavy narcotic. You are now legally taking illegal drugs, legally, that destroy people and families all over the world.
I’m fat and lazy and I wouldn’t touch that shit with a ten foot pole. I get up in the morning, and no matter how lazy I’m feeling, I do it, and I’m lazy. If I’m feeling fat, I pull out the weights and the bikes. No happy pill, just do it, as hard as it may be, do it.
Give me a FUCKING BREAK. :rolleyes: No shit, it’s a narcotic. It happens to be a narcotic that can help people as well as “destroy people and families”. Good to know you admit it’s “a purely dick response”.
FYI: a lot of drugs can be abused and “destroy people and families”. That doesn’t negate the fact that they can also be lifesaving and very helpful.
BTW, Bob, I wanted to say that I could’ve written your OP. I feel exactly that way all the time. Your post made me think that maybe it is worthwhile asking my doc about it; it’s bothered me for a long time.
I’m taking Ritalin. It does it’s job, but there are some things I still have to work on. I’m still lazy and pretty forgetful. If you don’t feel like cleaning your house, don’t expect the drugs to help you to want to clean it. Try to make lifestyle changes to help yourself too. Good luck to you!!
Isn’t it kind of extreme to equate someone who has been taking low doses of a prescription drug for three days with a “meth/speed user” and “speed freak?” And maybe I’m not up to date on my drug-lingo, but “wasted/stoned” and “functioning better than ever” seem to be very different things. The OP is under the supervision of a doctor and obtaining this drug legally, just like people are often prescribed narcotics after major surgery. Yes, people who take these medicines are “using drugs.” Why do you assume that using drugs is equal to abusing drugs? I’ve taken vicodin for a few days after surgery, and then stopped- no addiction, no broken family, nothing. This summer I took Adderall 4 days a week for a month- and then stopped (summer school ended). I’m not addicted. I’m not going through withdrawal. I’m not living on the streets rolling drunks to get money for my next fix.
from wikipedia: “The term narcotic (pronounced /nɑrˈkɒtɨk/) strictly refers (medically) to any psychoactive compound with morphine-like effects (see Opiate). A Narcotic is defined as a drug such as opium or morphine that in moderate doses relieves pain and induces deep sleep.”
Adderall is not a narcotic. How do you know so much about how awful this stuff is, but not even know the basic class of drug it falls into?
The fact that it’s not a magic happy pill has already been addressed. It is hard to learn positive work habits, and sometimes you do just have to force yourself. But there’s more to ADD than just plain laziness.
Imagine two people who are each missing part of a leg. One of them refuses to use a prosthetic, and drags himself around by his arms. The other one happily uses a prosthetic. One of these people has really strong arms. The other leads a pretty normal life. One would prefer to show that he can do it all on his own, even though he ends up getting less done because of his limited mobility. The other one who accepts the aid of modern medicine and is less limited by his handicap. Is the second person more lazy? Or just less proud? Which one is doing a better job of living with his disability? The fact that in the case of ADD the “prosthetic” is a controlled substance doesn’t have to make a difference. Yes, it means a person has to be more careful about dosage and side effects and stuff, but that’s a pretty small risk compared to the potential benefit.
I’ve also got the ADHD. I never really noticed it until I was in graduate school for a while and I started studying some things in relation to a bioethics course I was taking. As I read down the list of indicators for ADHD I could identify with all of them. Things I had thought to be just normal were suddenly “fixable.”
I didn’t have just one meeting with a psychologist. I had quite a few. They talked to my parents. There was some test (I don’t remember the name) involving concentration and reaction times on a computer with a little thumb-clicker-doodad. I don’t usually take more than 5mg of the Adderall, but I’ve taken 15mg before (by my doc’s suggestion). I also don’t take it every day. I probably should, but there are plenty of days that I can cope just fine.
In case you’re curious, the amphetamine in that is Adderall isn’t addictive. We might get a little cranky , but we’re not “speed freaks.” If I don’t get my Adderall, I’m not going to knock over a bank or steal cash from my nana. I’m just going to be frustrated by my lack of focus.