# Just heard on the news: "A matador was fatally killed...." **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 11, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630 "2016-07-11T03:42:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/21 "2016-07-11T18:09:14Z")
… nm ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/22 "2016-07-11T19:11:45Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Not a headline but I did see a packet of potato crisps (spicy sweet chili sauce flavour!) proudly emblazoned with… > > “made from real ingredients” > > You know, just to distinguish it from all those snack products fashioned from anti-matter and dark energy. > > “Schroedingers snacks present QUANTUM PUFFS, in all new collapsed wave function, superpositioned cat or square root of -1 flavours!” These [potato chips](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ed/15/9a/ed159a220d2be4dea3fd2b737f5d1040.jpg) contain surreal ingredients. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/23 "2016-07-11T19:25:10Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Not a headline but I did see a packet of potato crisps (spicy sweet chili sauce flavour!) proudly emblazoned with… > > “made from real ingredients” > > You know, just to distinguish it from all those snack products fashioned from anti-matter and dark energy. > > “Schroedingers snacks present QUANTUM PUFFS, in all new collapsed wave function, superpositioned cat or square root of -1 flavours!” One of the soup companies advertises their soup as being made with “farm-grown vegetables”. It makes me happy, because I was worried they were going around at night and stealing them from people’s gardens. ---
**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/24 "2016-07-11T19:39:21Z")
That matador was feta-lly killed actually. Ya’ see, there was this cheese delivery truck that swerved a bit too much and … 😃 (well, SOMEone had to say it) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/25 "2016-07-11T19:48:46Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > How about using “real people” in weight-loss ads? > > As opposed to fake people? > > Oh, I know what they mean - private citizens vs. celebrities. Guess what. Celebrities are real people too. :smack: :rolleyes: Actually, I think they mean as opposed to paid actors. Flo for instance has hardly a celebrity before the Progressive ads, but I doubt the actor ever actually sold insurance. Not a great example, of course - normally you see that in testimonial type ads, so they are telling you it isn’t someone playing a role (I don’t know if the spokefolks get paid or not). ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/26 "2016-07-11T20:02:10Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > I’ve always thought it redundant to hear of someone interviewing the survivors of some catastrophe; who the hell else would they interview? An interview with someone who didn’t survive would be much more newsworthy. Many post-catastrophe interviews involve folks who weren’t there when it happened. We hear from rescue workers, other journalists, relatives who rushed to the scene, and even government officials in a faraway capital city. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/27 "2016-07-11T20:13:25Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > My wife watched a show on the History Channel yesterday about the guys who escaped from Alcatraz in the 1960’s. I overheard when they were talking about a brother of one of the escapees and mentioned that he had been “electrocuted to death”. I had to ask my wife, “Is there any other way to be electrocuted?”. This one’s debatable: in some dictionaries it retains the original meaning of “cause death by electricity”; in others (and arguably in common usage in some places) it can mean “to cause either death or serious injury by means of electricity”. Hence, news items like so: > **[@@headline@@](https://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/electrician-electrocuted-while-fixing-plug-2012010912#axzz4E8HyKSoi)** > > @@Synopsis@@ > [@](#): > > An electrician doing routine work in a Masterton Café has ended up in hospital after being electrocuted. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/28 "2016-07-11T20:23:03Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I don’t want this to turn into a discussion about bullfighting; my point is, is there any other way to be killed? He might have only been **mostly** dead. As that real-life documentary, The Princess Bride, has taught me, that’s not fatal. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/29 "2016-07-11T20:38:18Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > … the guy with the short spears) died in May of 1988 again from wounds incurred in the arena. … He died in 1988 _again_?! When did he die the first time? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/30 "2016-07-11T20:47:28Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > Many post-catastrophe interviews involve folks who weren’t there when it happened. We hear from rescue workers, other journalists, relatives who rushed to the scene, and even government officials in a faraway capital city. If a person is identified as a survivor of a catastrophe I think that’s a pretty clear indicator that the person was present during the course of the catastrophe. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/31 "2016-07-11T20:51:15Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > He died in 1988 _again_?! When did he die the first time? In this case, “again” means “exactly as in the previous sentence”. Neither Cáceres nor Campeño died on the arena itself, but both died of wounds sustained there. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/32 "2016-07-11T20:54:37Z")
He was killed exactly as he was killed in the previous sentence?! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/33 "2016-07-11T21:04:39Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > He died in 1988 _again_?! When did he die the first time? He died a few years before, but since he just _died_, but didn’t _fatally_ die, he was able to continue bullfighting. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/34 "2016-07-11T21:14:02Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > > [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > > > My wife watched a show on the History Channel yesterday about the guys who escaped from Alcatraz in the 1960’s. I overheard when they were talking about a brother of one of the escapees and mentioned that he had been “electrocuted to death”. I had to ask my wife, “Is there any other way to be electrocuted?”. > > This one’s debatable: in some dictionaries it retains the original meaning of “cause death by electricity”; in others (and arguably in common usage in some places) it can mean “to cause either death or serious injury by means of electricity”. I’ve run into the same thing with “drowned” - I’ve seen it (rarely) be used as, “Overcome by water (but survived)!” Confusing. (The best electrical warning sign I’ve seen: “_ **WARNING! DANGER!!!** Not only will this kill you, but it will hurt the entire time you’re dying!_”) ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/35 "2016-07-11T21:28:21Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He might have only been **mostly** dead. As that real-life documentary, The Princess Bride, has taught me, that’s not fatal. But it does require a miracle! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/36 "2016-07-11T22:12:05Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > One that struck me was from a museum newsletter article about a pre-Columbian Peruvian exhibit. The author wrote something about a display of idols “depicting their imaginary gods …”. In my mind I was thinking “there’s another kind?” . I’d read that as saying the pre-Columbian Peruvians didn’t think they were real, either. Like us depicting the gods in Disney’s Hercules. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/37 "2016-07-11T22:13:31Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > So you’re saying, he’s not only merely dead, he’s really most sincerely dead? Let’s not go down this road… ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/38 "2016-07-11T22:26:13Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > My wife watched a show on the History Channel yesterday about the guys who escaped from Alcatraz in the 1960’s. I overheard when they were talking about a brother of one of the escapees and mentioned that he had been “electrocuted to death”. I had to ask my wife, “Is there any other way to be electrocuted?”. Not necessarily. Some people do survive electrocution, although if it was in the context of capital punishment, no, he wouldn’t have. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/39 "2016-07-11T22:29:00Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > One of the soup companies advertises their soup as being made with “farm-grown vegetables”. It makes me happy, because I was worried they were going around at night and stealing them from people’s gardens. Or creating them in labs, yanno? When I took Spanish I in high school, I remember a phrase that translated literally to “temporarily dead”. We all had a good laugh about that, and then the teacher said that the explanation for that would have to wait until Spanish II, which I didn’t take. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630/40 "2016-07-12T12:48:17Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’d read that as saying the pre-Columbian Peruvians didn’t think they were real, either. Like us depicting the gods in Disney’s Hercules. Heh, I was thinking “these Peruvian idols depict _imaginary_ gods … but these Mexican idols, they depict _real_ gods.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-heard-on-the-news-a-matador-was-fatally-killed/759630.md?page=3)