# Just how much was tuppence, anyway?

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**Created:** [March 4, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-much-was-tuppence-anyway/809991 "2018-03-04T01:06:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
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Just watching Mary Poppins, and it seems like a lot of fuss was made of tuppence. Just how much was tuppence back in that day?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
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two cents

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Two pence (pennies), of which there were 240 in a pound. If I’m not mistaken, the British system of currency (based on 12 instead of 10) went back to Roman times.

For many years, a pound was worth US$4.00. When you figure that 100 years ago, $1 was worth around $20 today, I guess you could actually buy a number of things with a UK penny.

Britain went decimal in the early '70s. The money lost a lot of charm when it did, IMHO. ☹

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Two pence, actually…somewhat different. (Although I’d take two Pence over a Trump and a Pence…)

Bah…ninjaed, and far more completely.

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Figure tuppence was worth about $16 in today’s money. That means…he would have made bupkis until the 1950s, when he would have lost everything when the British Empire collapsed.

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“If you have no ha-penny then God bless you.”

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Just how much was tuppence, anyway?

Fifty pounds from a quick bit of blackmail, which impressed tommy.

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> … I’d take two Pence over a Trump and a Pence…

Now, if you are looking for sense, I would look elsewhere.

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A quick check shows that US$1 in 1910, the year _ **MP** _ is set, was actually worth $25.23 in today’s money. A British pound was worth US$4.86. You do the math. 😃

BTW, one pound in 1910 would be worth £114.23 today! :eek:

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> two cents

Yes, I know, Two Pence. Which is not really two cents. But how much was tuppence worth.

what could you buy with tuppence?

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So it would have cost about a dollar to feed the birds or to open a bank account. Seems a little low to me, at least for the bank account.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-much-was-tuppence-anyway/809991/12 "2018-03-04T02:57:09Z")

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Huh, this site says: I\*n 1914, it cost one penny to post a letter.  
For the same amount, you could buy a pint of milk or a loaf of bread, though most people were still baking their own.

Or you could buy a copy of The Oxford Times newspaper.

A quarter of loose tea would set you back tuppence and a pint of beer was yours for two pence-ha’penny.\*

> **[Remembering when a penny could buy a lot](https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/opinion/columns/11379827.remembering-penny-buy-lot/)**
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> Personal finance with Gill Oliver

So, maybe $1 or two.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-much-was-tuppence-anyway/809991/13 "2018-03-04T02:59:17Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> two cents

No.

Two “cents” mean two one-hundredths of a dollar/other basic monetary unit. Since there were 240 pence in the pound, tuppence were equivalent to 1/120th of a pound. Much less than “two cents”.

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> No.
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> Two “cents” mean two one-hundredths of a dollar/other basic monetary unit. Since there were 240 pence in the pound, tuppence were equivalent to 1/120th of a pound. Much less than “two cents”.

But a pence is a big copper coin, and a pound was about $5. So 1/100 of a dollar is less that 1/240 of $5. So tuppence was more than two cents.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Huh, this site says: I\*n 1914, it cost one penny to post a letter.  
> For the same amount, you could buy a pint of milk or a loaf of bread, though most people were still baking their own.
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> Or you could buy a copy of The Oxford Times newspaper.
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> A quarter of loose tea would set you back tuppence and a pint of beer was yours for two pence-ha’penny.\*  
> [Remembering when a penny could buy a lot | Oxford Mail](http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/life/11379827.Remembering_when_a_penny_could_buy_a_lot/)
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> So, maybe $1 or two.

What kind of beer do you drink?

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-much-was-tuppence-anyway/809991/16 "2018-03-04T04:17:19Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> What kind of beer do you drink?

Well, in a bar, sure, but you can get a can for a buck.

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> [@j666](#):
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> So it would have cost about a dollar to feed the birds or to open a bank account. Seems a little low to me, at least for the bank account.

Yes, when I did the math it came to $1.02546 in today’s money. And that seems about right. In those days (from what I’ve read) you might give tuppence as a tip, as you might give a dollar today.

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Well, here’s my 2 cents.  
Well not really, I have nothing.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> But a pence is a big copper coin, and a pound was about $5. So 1/100 of a dollar is less that 1/240 of $5. So tuppence was more than two cents.

Only if by “cent” you mean an AMERICAN cent. The concept of a “cent” extends beyond just our own currency. 😉

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-how-much-was-tuppence-anyway/809991/20 "2018-03-04T09:25:18Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> Only if by “cent” you mean an AMERICAN cent. The concept of a “cent” extends beyond just our own currency. 😉

‘cent’ as in per cent, i.e. 100 to the (whatever).

In the British system, pence are also called pennies, but never cents.

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