# Just saw "Journeyman", and I've seen it before! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387 "2007-09-25T03:04:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/1 "2007-09-25T03:04:26Z")
Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Mouseover spoiler space. Okay, now that I’ve got that out the way, by the first commercial break I had this show pegged as _Quantum Leap 2007_ and it looks like I was right. There are mysterious other time travelers (the main character’s once-dead fiancée) and the purpose of his “leaps” ? To do good deeds and put right what once went wrong, apparently. The minor redemptions might be that it’s a lot less cutesy and saccharine than _QL_ and there’s one serious MILF in the mix. I bet by November, this show’ll be a thing of the past. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/2 "2007-09-25T03:15:47Z")
Maybe not. We’re ready for another Quantum Leap, I think. 🙂 Isn’t the catch that he’s supposed to fix things for others, without changing anything in his own life? ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/3 "2007-09-25T03:16:12Z")
Well, I was thinking about that movie where the guy was talking with his dead father over the Ham radio (_Frequency_?). That had the same “hide the thing in your house so you can pull it out years later” trick. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/4 "2007-09-25T03:17:12Z")
In a future episode, the main character goes back in time and convinces the producers of _CSI_ that they really shouldn’t make any spinoff series, thus eliminating the show’s primary competition (and leaving David Caruso in obscurity, where he deserved to stay). ---
**Author:** ![parsnip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parsnip/32/4564_2.png) [@parsnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parsnip)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/5 "2007-09-25T03:19:58Z")
I don’t care if it’s bad–it’s Lucius Vorenus and his squint! \ ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/6 "2007-09-25T03:22:40Z")
I wonder if they will do a bit in ancient Rome? That would be neat. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/7 "2007-09-25T03:24:59Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] I wonder if they will do a bit in ancient Rome? That would be neat. [/QUOTE] Looks like it’ll all be set in and around San Francisco, kinda like how 113 damned souls escaped from Hell in _Brimstone_ and all settled in greater Los Angeles. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/8 "2007-09-25T03:30:10Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Looks like it’ll all be set in and around San Francisco, kinda like how 113 damned souls escaped from Hell in _Brimstone_ and all settled in greater Los Angeles. [/QUOTE] I wonder if the joke school will give me a refund? Since I apparently can’t make a joke. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/9 "2007-09-25T03:37:01Z")
I saw the pilot episode last week “On Demand”. It was slow, meandering and the stupid. Oh and the characters were unlikeable. I agree that it is likely to be in the past by November. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/10 "2007-09-25T03:37:03Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] I wonder if the joke school will give me a refund? Since I apparently can’t make a joke. [/QUOTE] No, it’s okay, don’t burn your diploma. It was just a fairly obvious suggestion, since Kevin McKidd’s only other major role (at least that I and expect many North Americans are aware of) was in HBO’s _Rome_. I recall seeing him in a minor role in _De-Lovely_ but my reaction was “Hey, that’s the guy from _Rome_!” Anyhoo, despite the cosmic nature of time-travel, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the locus of temporal modulation gravitates in a helical orbit around metro SF-Oakland. It makes perfect sense! Who says it doesn’t?! ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/11 "2007-09-25T04:01:49Z")
I watched this for Vorenus, but also because Tim Goodman of the SF Chronicle gave it a positive review. Kinda turned out meh. Maybe Goodman was blinded by the glorious location shots of San Francisco and iPhone pr0n…though the dead wife in her underwear got my attention too (the current wife…not so much). 🙂 But Livia? Really? Didn’t Nancy Marchand ruin any hope of that name ever being a “hot girl” name for the next 40 years? Oh well. I’ll watch it again for the location shots…but I have a sneaking suspicion that the rest of the episodes will have LA standing in for SF like on Monk. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/12 "2007-09-25T04:11:20Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] No, it’s okay, don’t burn your diploma. It was just a fairly obvious suggestion, since Kevin McKidd’s only other major role (at least that I and expect many North Americans are aware of) was in HBO’s _Rome_. I recall seeing him in a minor role in _De-Lovely_ but my reaction was “Hey, that’s the guy from _Rome_!” [/QUOTE] I only know him as poor, ill-fated Tommy from _Trainspotting_, and I suspect he’d be pretty recognizable from that. ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/13 "2007-09-25T04:26:05Z")
I sort of enjoyed it although it seems to me to be shaping up as Quantum Daybreak 2.0. Or maybe that’s just because Livia is the same actress who played Taye Digg’s girlfriend in Daybreak? At least she gets in on the action this time around. I thought it might be interesting if they played up the “save the unborn kid” angle a la Terminator but it seems the kid was destined simply to save a busload of schoolkids not fight off robot overlords in the future. Darn it. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/14 "2007-09-25T10:27:53Z")
I knew McKidd as the sole survivor in _Dog Soldiers_. Or an actor in _Topsy Turvy_. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/15 "2007-09-25T10:48:44Z")
Baah! _Quantum Leap_? I prefer _Voyagers!_ ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/16 "2007-09-25T12:25:20Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] I saw the pilot episode last week “On Demand”. It was slow, meandering and the stupid. Oh and the characters were unlikeable. I agree that it is likely to be in the past by November. [/QUOTE] I think you nailed it. I also found the meandering plot difficult to connect and some dialog hard to hear. Quantum leap was mildly interesting, but I think this one is too convoluted. I do find the concept appealing, but I think the presentation is weak. I’ll give it another episode, or two, but I also think it’s toast before the season is over. I also watched Chuck and didn’t make it through the episode. Too many special effects, too much fantasy, not my cup of tea. It too will not be back next year, if it makes it through this one. It’s too bad, because I suspect this will mean more, cheap to produce, reality shows, most of which aren’t worth watching. Maybe more game shows too. I like game shows, but a few go a long way in satisfying me. I like the ones who choose contestants from the audience, not so much the ones that preselect contestants ahead of time. With the exception of Jeopardy, that would probably be boring w/o screening the performance of contestants. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/17 "2007-09-25T13:18:22Z")
It wasn’t great. Particularly I didn’t like the way they handled the transitions between the present and the past. I’m going to give it a few more episodes to get better, though. I really like watching McKidd, and I have fond memories of _Quantum Leap_. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/18 "2007-09-25T13:52:37Z")
[QUOTE=Baker] I knew McKidd as the sole survivor in _Dog Soldiers_. Or an actor in _Topsy Turvy_. [/QUOTE] Topsy Turvy! That’s where I know him from! Thanks. By the way, I thought it would have been more effective if he had buried a 2007 newspaper (or something else that he happened to have on him, like a picture of their son) in the toolbox under the patio. A lot harder to explain how something could have been buried more than 7 years before it existed. The ring doesn’t count because he could have palmed it and dropped it in the box after he dug it up. I’m such a cynic. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/19 "2007-09-25T13:52:44Z")
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[QUOTE=5que] Well, I was thinking about that movie where the guy was talking with his dead father over the Ham radio (_Frequency_?). That had the same “hide the thing in your house so you can pull it out years later” trick. [/QUOTE] [Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure]“Remember the trash can!”[/B&TEA] [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387.md?page=2)