# Just saw "Journeyman", and I've seen it before! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 25, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387 "2007-09-25T03:04:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/21 "2007-09-25T14:47:22Z")
Well, I have to give them props for casting two guys who actually look like they could be brothers as brothers. Sometimes I forgot which one I was looking at. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/22 "2007-09-25T14:48:07Z")
I was hooked ten minutes into it. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/23 "2007-09-25T15:13:34Z")
I forgot to mention this in my first post, but Mrs. Journeyman must have made a serious fortune in a dot-com company (or is the CEO of Wells Fargo, The Gap, or Levi’s, or comes from “old money”) because a big Victorian house with a front yard like that in San Francisco is way beyond even “average” dot-com millionaires. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/24 "2007-09-25T15:22:35Z")
[QUOTE=askeptic] I wonder if they will do a bit in ancient Rome? That would be neat. [/QUOTE] He could prevent Niobe from killing herself so she could be in season II. She was so hot in season I-- what a tragic loss!! I give this show 6 episodes, max. It was terrible. Absolutely terrible. I hate to see a good actor wasted like this. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/25 "2007-09-25T16:17:00Z")
[QUOTE=fiddlesticks] I forgot to mention this in my first post, but Mrs. Journeyman must have made a serious fortune in a dot-com company (or is the CEO of Wells Fargo, The Gap, or Levi’s, or comes from “old money”) because a big Victorian house with a front yard like that in San Francisco is way beyond even “average” dot-com millionaires. [/QUOTE] The implication is that the property was pretty run-down when they bought and extensively renovated it, though it does have a certain “Lois Lane’s apartment” feel to it. It’s a pretty huge place for a couple with one child. I didn’t like _Chuck_, either, but I kept the TV on because I didn’t want to miss the beginning of _Heroes_. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/26 "2007-09-25T16:27:27Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] It was slow, meandering and the stupid. [/QUOTE] I think you misspelled “teh”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/27 "2007-09-25T16:45:55Z")
[QUOTE=fiddlesticks] …Tim Goodman of the SF Chronicle gave it a positive review. [/QUOTE] Huh… that’s a good sign for me. We pretty much have the same taste. Haven’t seen it yet, but based on the Wikipedia description, it looks like _QL_ with some _Wonderfalls_ tossed in. Could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/28 "2007-09-25T16:46:49Z")
I guess I liked it better than the average. If there were something compelling opposite it I might switch away but I’ll probably watch just based on sheer inertia. ---
**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/29 "2007-09-25T16:51:19Z")
I didn’t love it and I was a huge Quantum Leap fan. It was definitely slow, but seems like it has potential. And they’ve already got me on the couch since it’s on after Heroes, so I’ll give it a shot. I do like that it’s set in San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/30 "2007-09-25T16:58:30Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] He could prevent Niobe from killing herself so she could be in season II. She was so hot in season I-- what a tragic loss!! [/QUOTE] She’s in the Doctor Who (speaking of time travel) spinoff Torchwood…so maybe he does she kills herself in that too though ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/31 "2007-09-25T17:17:10Z")
It was boring and had huge direction/editing problems. So the wife sees her husband’s car in a wreck on TV, rushes down to the site in hysterics, her husband is MIA and possibly in a hospital or worse, and two days later she’s at some bullshit kid recital, all smiley? Doesn’t pass the bullshit test. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/32 "2007-09-25T17:26:12Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] It was boring and had huge direction/editing problems. So the wife sees her husband’s car in a wreck on TV, rushes down to the site in hysterics, her husband is MIA and possibly in a hospital or worse, and two days later she’s at some bullshit kid recital, all smiley? Doesn’t pass the bullshit test. [/QUOTE] She’s being brave for the sake of her son. Recall that following his first (or maybe second? I forget) disappearance she said something about how she was running out of excuses to tell the kid. Since she doesn’t know anything at the recital she’s putting on a brave face for his benefit and probably for her own to avoid dealing with people asking her pesky questions. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/33 "2007-09-25T17:38:36Z")
\ [QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Looks like it’ll all be set in and around San Francisco, kinda like how 113 damned souls escaped from Hell in _Brimstone_ and all settled in greater Los Angeles. [/QUOTE] Well, where else would you expect damned souls to go, really? (Although the very first one, Father Salinas, was in New York.) I suspect there actually was, or was going to be, a reason for them all being in the same area–a plot reason, that is, and not a handwaving metaphysical reason. I choose to believe that, at any rate. 🙂 \ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/34 "2007-09-25T21:12:24Z")
Notable: For the first time in history a guy digs up a little box from his past and it _saves_ his marriage. Halfway through the show I muted the TV and put the 12 Monkeys soundtrack on the stereo. It was enjoyable enough. Oh, and don’t do drugs, kids. One day you’ll take too long in the bathroom and everybody you know will stage an intervention. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/35 "2007-09-25T21:47:21Z")
[QUOTE=El Cid Viscoso] Oh, and don’t do drugs, kids. One day you’ll take too long in the bathroom and everybody you know will stage an intervention. [/QUOTE] Reminds me of that _Far Side_ cartoon set at a bear funeral where the “deceased” sits up in his coffin: “For crying out loud, I was HIBERNATING! …Don’t you guys ever take a pulse?” ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/36 "2007-09-25T22:07:34Z")
What about that whole Pacific Heights vibe? I keep hoping Michael Keaton is the villain: some kind of Ming the Merciless as portrayed by Betelgeuse. That would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/37 "2007-09-25T23:39:57Z")
[QUOTE=Balance] \ Well, where else would you expect damned souls to go, really? (Although the very first one, Father Salinas, was in New York.) [/QUOTE] Yeah, but the damned souls stopped hanging out in NYC when Giuliani cracked down on the graffiti… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/38 "2007-09-25T23:48:50Z")
I liked it. The only other time travel show I’ve seen is Quantum Leap (and Time Tunnel from years back), so this is new to me. I liked that he got smart quick and didn’t dither around. The man has confidence, and he’s already practicing. I do wonder how long it will last. I like that it didn’t take several episodes to convince Katie, and I expect he’ll convince the cop brother soon. That’s a good bit of the conflict and tension taken care of – maybe too quickly. How long before Livia and Katie meet? That could be fun. The guy with the big portable phone – what did he say? I didn’t catch it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/39 "2007-09-26T00:07:05Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] I liked that he got smart quick and didn’t dither around. [/QUOTE] If he were smart, he would’ve hocked the ring and bought some high rising stock like Apple or Google to bury in the back yard. Since he can bring his iPhone, he could also load up his laptop with financial data and bring that back in time with some cash. Or, with California real estate the way it is, just purchase a few property deeds. After a few journeys, he’d have a fortune, enough to quit his day job and convince his wife and brother. But as mentioned, his swanky home seems to indicate he is already very wealthy. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387/40 "2007-09-26T04:29:29Z")
[QUOTE=fiddlesticks] I forgot to mention this in my first post, but Mrs. Journeyman must have made a serious fortune in a dot-com company (or is the CEO of Wells Fargo, The Gap, or Levi’s, or comes from “old money”) because a big Victorian house with a front yard like that in San Francisco is way beyond even “average” dot-com millionaires. [/QUOTE] I have never been to SF, but I also immediately spotted this as BS. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-journeyman-and-ive-seen-it-before/420387.md?page=3)