# Just saw the Carnivale Season Two Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 5, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147 "2004-12-05T02:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/21 "2004-12-10T00:44:15Z")
> [@5que](#): > > The weird thing is that HBO orders a season of a new show, and it gets filmed before the first episode airs. This is SOP for British TV. We run shorter seasons, of course, but some shows get their first two seasons in the space of a year - a 4-6 ep first season in the fall followed by a 6-8 ep season in the following spring is not unusual. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/22 "2004-12-10T02:44:57Z")
WAAAAH! The link at [hbo.com/carnivale](http://hbo.com/carnivale) for the trailer isn’t working for me! All it does is load and load and load and never finishes! Is there anyplace else I can look at it? Even seeing who shows up–Sophie? Appolonia? Jonesy? Lodz?–will tell me a lot. WAAAAH! ---
**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/23 "2004-12-10T04:49:29Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Wasn’t it ABC that dropped a King series a few years back? Golden Years, or something like that. Dropped the story in the middle of plot development. Jerks. Gaahh! My SO and I were addicted to that show! The janitor is getting younger and younger, he and his wife have to run for their lives and then…Cancelled. Damn, but that pissed us off. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/24 "2004-12-10T15:06:10Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > WAAAAH! > > The link at [Carnivale - Official Website for the HBO Series](http://hbo.com/carnivale) for the trailer isn’t working for me! All it does is load and load and load and never finishes! > > Is there anyplace else I can look at it? Even seeing who shows up–Sophie? Appolonia? Jonesy? Lodz?–will tell me a lot. > > WAAAAH! You’re not missing a whole lot, IMHO. The cuts were so dark and so quick, it was hard to make anything out. I think I saw Jonesy, Sophie, and Ben, of course, and the preacher. But it was really hard to tell anything from the trailer, at least from my PC. I’m hoping HBO will start running it so I can run it slow and pause the darn thing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/25 "2004-12-10T15:51:36Z")
> [@vinryk](#): > > From what I have seen, I got a very distinct Twin Peaks vibe. > . Vibe, hell! It has the same damn dwarf (Michael J. Anderson). ---
**Author:** ![murky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@murky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/murky)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/26 "2004-12-21T00:27:22Z")
> [@5que](#): > > The weird thing is that HBO orders a season of a new show, and it gets filmed before the first episode airs. Now the producers will film the “final” episode before they necessarily know the show will get picked up for another season. So that could be the show’s Finale. But is seems with Carnivale and Deadwood, the Season 1 final episodes left a LOT of unanswered questions. What the hell is the relationship between Ben and Brother Crowe??? And what’s the deal with management? And what’s with that damn bear??? > > I guess that the producers always work on the assumption that the shows will continue, rather than wrap everything up nicely after one season. But I really hate waiting on HBO to get the shows back on the air so I can maybe start to figure stuff out. > > And don’t even get me started on the breaks between the Sopranos seasons! One of the things I absolutely love about HBO’s original programming is how they are willing to work with a series and allow it to develop over time. Carnivale is a wonderful show and I really liked that the finale didn’t tie everything up with a cute bow. That being said, it looks like the beginning of this season will answer some questions for us. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/27 "2004-12-21T14:48:00Z")
> [@vinryk](#): > > Can anyone tell me if story-lines get resolved or is it like most shows that things are left in the air until the show gets cancelled. I seem to remember an interview with the show runner who said there is a definite end they’re moving towards and that the whole thing should take 4 or 5 seasons. It’s not exactly true that HBO lets shows go as long as they want; David Simon has said he has two more seasons of The Wire he wants to do but it’s by no means clear that he’ll get to do them. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/28 "2004-12-21T14:49:13Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > They seemed to be evenly divided between people who thought the show was the most hideously boring piece of crap ever and people who thought it was genius. With at least a few of us who weren’t quite sure. BTW, for those of you with HBO OnDemand, all of S1 is available until Jan. 9. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/29 "2004-12-21T14:51:06Z")
Thanks for the replies, people. Looks like I finally know what I want for christmas. ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/30 "2004-12-21T19:15:18Z")
How many episodes were there? We started watching it at the very beginning, but my roomies lost interest and then I followed them in wandering away from it. I work at Blockbuster and I can snap up the DVDs. Are there any key episodes I should make sure to talk my roomies into watching, so we’re primed for Season 2? I’m not sure I can convince them into sitting through what amounts to practically the entire season. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/31 "2004-12-21T19:38:58Z")
S1 was 12 eps. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2004, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/32 "2004-12-21T21:05:47Z")
I don’t think you can just watch a few “key” episodes. Each episode refers to the other episodes–both past and future–and they build on each other. There are definite arcs for the characters, and so much is packed into a single hour that by skipping an episode you can miss the climax or the resolution or both to an arc. But I guess if you really can’t sit through 13 episodes then **Babylon** , **Pick a Number** , **The River** , **Day of the Dead** , and **The Day that Was the Day** might be good places to start. Though you will probably still miss key information. ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2005, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147/33 "2005-03-22T11:42:12Z")
I have watched the first season and really liked it. It was a bit slow, but the pay-off was pretty great. I hated the final episode until I found a place to download the season 2 episodes (don’t worry, I will buy the original when it is released). The second season so far has blown me away. This is now my favourite show off all times!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-saw-the-carnivale-season-two-trailer/278147.md?page=1)