# Just say no to Kerry's dumbass daughters! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691 "2004-07-31T02:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/61 "2004-07-31T18:49:37Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Hey **Aeschines** , this has been a fun threat… you said something stupid and it’s entertaining to see everyone tell you what an ass you’re being. I didn’t threaten _anyone_, you stupid fuck. Oh, whoops, you meant “thread.” My bad. Hey, if it’s entertained all of you, then I feel good about it. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/62 "2004-07-31T18:52:42Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > Do you like the term ‘Mysoginist dumbfuck’ better? Because it combines the 2 biggest attributes of you and your OP. Do the girls really make your peter feel that small and insignificant? I’ve never seen someone so fucking threatened by a female speaker at a convention before. > > Sam Well, Sam, first off: fuck you! Yeah, that’s right, muthafucka! But leaving all that aside, I think it’s very telling that people have come back and attacked me far more than they have bothered to defend the propaganda of the convention. For those who genuinely think the Kerry kids are fine, intelligent, and articulate ladies, then I guess we just disagree. But I can only pity those who have attacked me baselessly (or nearly so) in this thread without actually responding to my original points regarding these two floozies. Did you really think they were good speakers? No, I didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/63 "2004-07-31T18:54:43Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Hey, if it’s entertained all of you, then I feel good about it. Like I said earlier, I thought your rage was manufactured, and I wasn’t buying it. I’m buying it even less, now. “Gee, I’m bored tonight. Let me see how provocative I can be.” ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/64 "2004-07-31T18:57:48Z")
People, people. Can’t we all just agree that John Edwards’s daughter is the hotest and move on? ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/65 "2004-07-31T19:01:56Z")
> [@Early Out](#): > > Like I said earlier, I thought your rage was manufactured, and I wasn’t buying it. I’m buying it even less, now. “Gee, I’m bored tonight. Let me see how provocative I can be.” Maybe I just don’t **do** rage well. But I did have some points to make about the convention, and that’s what I really think. I think it’s funny that we get the same ol’ response to negative statements: you’re probably a loser yourself, you’re scared of girls–heh, whatever. The same old ad hominem bullshit. As I said, if met the Kerry girls–or even GWB himself, for that matter–just as people on the street, I wouldn’t have a damn negative thing to say. I just found their presentations so phony and their manner so disconnected from the experience of ordinary Americans (i.e., they seem like stuck-up rich girls), that I found the whole thing to be really a turn-off. Same thing with Kerry’s stupid Vietnam propaganda film. Barf barf. I think it’s funny that people here are standing up for prerogatives of the rich. And on some other thread someone was saying they wish Theresa, Pluta herself, could be president or something like that. Give me a break! Until we get our tongues out of the ani of the wealthy, we are never going to have any social justice in this country. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/66 "2004-07-31T19:11:59Z")
Defend the propaganda of the convention, why? That’s all those are anyways. The nomination part was just a formality so all that’s left to do is stump for the candidate. Asking us to defend the propaganda of the DNC is like asking the same about a high school pep rally. As far as the girls speeches, after four years of Bush I’m happy when a person gets through a speech without having to slow down for words over three syllables. And until the conventions move to the far more entertaining “roast” style, the praise stays. I’d also like to say that I find the daughters “hittable.” Easily more than the Bush twins. Oh yeah, fuck fuck fucky fucker fuck shitfuck cuntfuck fuck and wagnalls fuck Didn’t want my post to seem out of place for the thread ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/67 "2004-07-31T19:22:33Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Defend the propaganda of the convention, why? That’s all those are anyways. The nomination part was just a formality so all that’s left to do is stump for the candidate. Asking us to defend the propaganda of the DNC is like asking the same about a high school pep rally. Fair enough. > [@](#): > > As far as the girls speeches, after four years of Bush I’m happy when a person gets through a speech without having to slow down for words over three syllables. And until the conventions move to the far more entertaining “roast” style, the praise stays. Fair enough. I can’t wait until the RNC and GWB’s granma talks about what a fine lad he was when young. > [@](#): > > I’d also like to say that I find the daughters “hittable.” Easily more than the Bush twins. Blondie is right on the line. The other, nah. In either case, however, as Kallessa pointed out, these billionaire bims (er, women of “this caliber”) are not going to put for anything less than $100M per annum. And that’s gotta be _old_ money too, jack. > [@](#): > > Oh yeah, fuck fuck fucky fucker fuck shitfuck cuntfuck fuck and wagnalls fuck > Didn’t want my post to seem out of place for the thread I am shocked at the rawness and crudity of your language. It’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/68 "2004-07-31T19:34:56Z")
Then face the shock and awe of this!! Oh my you are not a nice person. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/69 "2004-07-31T19:39:04Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Then face the shock and awe of this!! > > Oh my you are not a nice person. 😛 But I AM–see what a pleasant face I have: 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/70 "2004-07-31T19:55:59Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Well, Sam, first off: fuck you! Yeah, that’s right, muthafucka! :rolleyes: Here’s that “trying too hard” thing again. > [@](#): > > But leaving all that aside, I think it’s very telling that people have come back and attacked me far more than they have bothered to defend the propaganda of the convention. For those who genuinely think the Kerry kids are fine, intelligent, and articulate ladies, then I guess we just disagree. Are we talking about the girls praising their dad, other speeches? WHat? You’ve thus far interchanged “propaganda” and “the speech those horse-faced bitches gave”. So what are you calling “propaganda”? Is this about the Kerry/Heinz kids at all? Or is it a general dissatisfaction/whine fest about what all of the speakers spoke on? Or do you even know what you’re bitching about? Why are you voting democratic again? If you don’t like them and don’t like the things they stand for, don’t like their message(propaganda?), then don’t fucking vote for them. > [@](#): > > But I can only pity those who have attacked me baselessly (or nearly so) in this thread without actually responding to my original points regarding these two floozies. Right, because it’s baseless to attack someone who’s bitching about 2 relatively good looking girls and attacking them because they have money. Right, my apologies, you’re so right and I think for that reason alone we should condemn the DNC-the Kerry girls spoke at it and they’re rich, cute, and sang high praise for someone they love. My bad, Scooter. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Did you really think they were good speakers? That’s not what your whine was about, their speaking ability. Your post was an unadulterated attack on the girls because you dislike the way they look, sound, appear, dislike what they say, who they are, what they do. Oh, and because they’re women. Or is it floozies? or whores? or just worthless cunts? Sam ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/71 "2004-07-31T20:07:48Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > That’s not what your whine was about, their speaking ability. Your post was an unadulterated attack on the girls because you dislike the way they look, sound, appear, dislike what they say, who they are, what they do. Oh, and because they’re women. Or is it floozies? or whores? or just worthless cunts? > > Sam Now you’re not trying hard enough. I mentioned the rich-girl tone as well as the gestures they were making. In fact, I spoke a lot more about their _manner_ than their appearance. You’re not engaging with what I’ve actually said. So I ask again: Did you find them to be good speakers? Because I thought they were awful. No, I didn’t think you did. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/72 "2004-07-31T20:37:18Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Now you’re not trying hard enough. I mentioned the rich-girl tone as well as the gestures they were making. In fact, I spoke a lot more about their _manner_ than their appearance. You take yourself way too fucking seriously pal. > [@](#): > > So I ask again: Did you find them to be good speakers? Because I thought they were awful. Didn’t see them speak, actually. But I hate seeing hateful ignorant shit being spewed about politician’s familymembers for no good fucking reason. You could have just come out and said you didn’t like them as speakers instead of being an insulting, rude, mysoginistic, have-not, in tone. Your **envy** really got the better of you. > [@](#): > > No, I didn’t think you did. I’m not convinced you actually think. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/73 "2004-07-31T20:57:16Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > You take yourself way too fucking seriously pal. Yeah, haven’t been joking or kidding at all in this thread. > [@](#): > > Didn’t see them speak, actually. Oh, so **now** it comes out. > [@](#): > > But I hate seeing hateful ignorant shit being spewed about politician’s familymembers for no good fucking reason. No sir, you’re wrong. When they are up there on stage telling us how to think, it is fully permissible to criticize them. We are not talking about people who just want to stay out of the spotlight and be left alone. > [@](#): > > You could have just come out and said you didn’t like them as speakers instead of being an insulting, rude, mysoginistic, have-not, in tone. It’s “misogynistic”–I made the same mistake earlier. > [@](#): > > Your **envy** really got the better of you. Oh yes, absolutely. I’m amazed, however, at how many people here are willing to brown-nose the rich elite of the country. Welcome to country club, Sam. You may now clean the toilets. If you vote for Kerry, we will allow you to use a brush instead of your bare hand. > [@](#): > > I’m not convinced you actually think. Cheap shots have got to be funny. Refer to my posts in this thread for models to work with. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/74 "2004-07-31T22:23:30Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > If you vote for Kerry, we will allow you to use a brush instead of your bare hand. Then vote Bush, bitch. But don’t come ranting, raving like a lunatic and spewing hateful shit because they have more money, or their mannerisms feel more aristocratic than you prefer it. It doesn’t make them floozies, or whores, or any other denigrating bullshit fucking insult you can come up with. You still have not impressed a single point upon your audience, you’re turning out to be just as good a communicator as the Kerry girls. > [@](#): > > Cheap shots have got to be funny. Refer to my posts in this thread for models to work with. Right, “FUCK YOU, you motherfucker” is just SO funny. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/75 "2004-07-31T23:17:18Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > I can’t wait until the RNC and GWB’s granma talks about what a fine lad he was when young. That would be an interesting exercise in necromancy in prime time (they’re both long dead). ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/76 "2004-08-01T00:00:18Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > Then vote Bush, bitch. No! Because at least Kerry is going to let you use a brush when you clean the country club toilets. Bush makes you lick them out. > [@](#): > > But don’t come ranting, raving like a lunatic and spewing hateful shit because they have more money, or their mannerisms feel more aristocratic than you prefer it. It doesn’t make them floozies, or whores, or any other denigrating bullshit fucking insult you can come up with. No it doesn’t make them so; it merely reflects that they _are_ so. > [@](#): > > You still have not impressed a single point upon your audience, you’re turning out to be just as good a communicator as the Kerry girls. If that is so, then I have at least impressed upon you the fact that they were not good communicators. > [@](#): > > Right, “FUCK YOU, you motherfucker” is just SO funny. :rolleyes: Now you’re getting into the spirit of this thing! ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/77 "2004-08-01T01:25:39Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > First off, fuck you. Thanks. The speeches of the Heinz fuckers were just too short. They were up on screen for, what, five seconds or so apiece? And yes, what fuckers they were, too. I see… Not only did their speeches suck, but they were too short. “The food here’s lousy…and the portions are **so** small!!!” You are a class act, **A** ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/78 "2004-08-01T01:39:58Z")
> [@bizzwire](#): > > I see… Not only did their speeches suck, but they were too short. > > “The food here’s lousy…and the portions are **so** small!!!” > > You are a class act, **A** Are you a dumbass or what? Re the Heinz boyz, I really didn’t have an opinion. Read my posts. **Learn** something. And I think you’re a clASS act too! (Thank you, Snakespirit, for teaching me that effective technique!) ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/79 "2004-08-01T01:56:51Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > That would be an interesting exercise in necromancy in prime time (they’re both long dead). Hey! They could get the vice president John Edward to talk to them, since he talks to the dead! Yes, I know, it was intended that way. :o ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691/80 "2004-08-01T02:00:51Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Are you a dumbass or what? Re the Heinz boyz, I really didn’t have an opinion. Read my posts. **Learn** something. I did read the posts. I am now 9.7% stupider for having done so. > [@](#): > > And I think you’re a clASS act too! (Thank you, Snakespirit, for teaching me that effective technique!) Please, stop. You’re embarassing all the other Americans in Yokohama. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-say-no-to-kerrys-dumbass-daughters/257691.md?page=5)