# Just Stop Oil protesters **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 26, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406 "2022-08-26T19:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/1 "2022-08-26T19:19:28Z")
Crazy. Sure, I hate gas prices too and I have no love for the oil companies but is ruining the local station going to really have an impact? And what about the people who have to buy gas for jobs, school, etc. Just stupid. > **[Just Stop Oil protesters vow to keep blocking roads after repeatedly being...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/26/just-stop-oil-protesters-block-pumps-seven-service-stations/)** > > Protesters disrupted seven petrol stations across central London on Friday, breaking glass and gluing themselves to forecourts ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/2 "2022-08-26T19:25:19Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > I hate gas prices too I’m not defending this mode of activism, but this is not about fuel cost inflation. It’s about the impact of fossil fuels on the planet. > **[Home – Just Stop Oil](https://juststopoil.org/)** > > Take action with us it's people vs. oil Read the plan. This page requires JavaScript to work. Please enable JavaScript in your browser and reload the page. First name Last name Email Submit Mobile Region Your regionEast of EnglandLondonMidlandsNorth... ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/3 "2022-08-26T19:57:31Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I’m not defending this mode of activism, but this is not about fuel cost inflation. It’s about the impact of fossil fuels on the planet. One video I watched, they explicitly complained about gas prices. Regardless, they need to target refineries (if they feel they must use terrorism at all [and they shouldn’t]) not corner gas stations. What they are doing is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/4 "2022-08-26T20:02:51Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > And what about the people who have to buy gas for jobs, school, etc. Looks like they’re only targeting people who sell petrol. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/5 "2022-08-26T20:12:52Z")
They prevent people from buying gas. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/6 "2022-08-26T20:19:43Z")
…_gluing themselves to forecourts_ Weird Al would be proud ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/7 "2022-08-26T21:52:03Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > One video I watched, they explicitly complained about gas prices. Regardless, they need to target refineries (if they feel they must use terrorism at all [and they shouldn’t]) not corner gas stations. What they are doing is stupid. How are they getting to the gas stations to protest? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/8 "2022-08-27T14:50:56Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Regardless, they need to target refineries (if they feel they must use terrorism at all [and they shouldn’t]) not corner gas stations. What they are doing is stupid. Refineries have better security. And parading around the perimeter of a refinery (or gluing oneself to a refinery wall) will disrupt far fewer lives and attract less public attention. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/9 "2022-08-27T15:04:10Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > One video I watched, they explicitly complained about gas prices. That’s a lack of coherence among the protestors, then, because if you’re concerned about the environmental impact of fossil fuels, then higher prices are good. Of course, people behaving irrationally just because other people are behaving irrationally is hardly something unusual. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/10 "2022-08-27T16:09:58Z")
> [@pullin](#): > > How are they getting to the gas stations to protest? Roller skates. Bonus: no road tax. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/11 "2022-10-15T18:35:40Z")
These people are really loons: > **[Climate activists throw soup on Vincent van Gogh painting to protest oil](https://abcnews.go.com/International/climate-activists-throw-soup-vincent-van-gogh-painting/story?id=91505432)** > > Members of the climate activist group, Just Stop Oil, threw cans of tomato soup at Vincent van Gogh's painting "Sunflowers" Friday at the National Gallery in London. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/12 "2022-10-15T18:38:49Z")
From the article: > “What is worth more: art or life? Is it worth more than food? Worth more than justice?” one of the activists yells, adding, “are you more concerned about the protection of a painting, or the protection of our planet and people?” (1) Can’t it be both? (2) Don’t throw soup at things then whine about what’s worth more than food. Someone could have eaten that food you just wasted. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/13 "2022-10-15T20:20:25Z")
What legal liability would the museum face if they just left them sitting there, glued to the wall, for a couple of days? ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/14 "2022-10-15T20:25:13Z")
And covered in soup. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/15 "2022-10-15T20:30:49Z")
Considering they didn’t do any damage, while I don’t think that they are no longer loons, this might be a safe activity to channel their energies into, so that they will not instead be blocking traffic (causing more pollution due to cars idling, and occasionally causing a injured person to not get to the hospital in time), or deflating tires of vehicles they don’t consider pure enough (even electrics sometimes.) An even better way would be to do activities that are disruptive to the fossil fuel industry. Like if they blocked the entrances to gasoline distribution centers (not saying that would be the wisest action to actually do, just the first thing I could think of). They would be both making a targeted political point, and any disruption to individuals would be far enough in the future that it could be planned for (and not, say make you late for a job you were legally required to be at.) At least throwing soup onto a covered painting will merely get them dismissed as crazy, rather than malicious. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/16 "2022-10-15T20:38:53Z")
To say nothing of the fact that destroying gas stations just punishes the minimum-wage workers who live there. People have to feed their families, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/17 "2022-10-15T23:37:44Z")
What effective protest tactics would people suggest? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/18 "2022-10-15T23:45:39Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#): > > What effective protest tactics would people suggest ? I’d suggest a more concrete goal. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/19 "2022-10-16T00:05:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’d suggest a more concrete goal. So _that’s_ why TFG explicitly banned Brutalism from government building plans: he was secretly trying to cut down on GHG emissions from all the concrete! ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406/20 "2022-10-16T19:02:35Z")
Do we only support protesters who “get it right” from the get-go by having a vision, goals, and tactics that we entirely approve of and that don’t disturb us? Or should we think about protest as process with a learning curve for all involved? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-stop-oil-protesters/970406.md?page=2)