# Just when you think Republicans can't get any more fuckheaded **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 6, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897 "2004-10-06T19:05:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/81 "2004-10-10T05:35:51Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Moore has never demonstrated anything except a sense of entitlement to his outrage. If this happened, I bet you a million dollars\* that we’d be in for a screed as to how the Republicans were conspiring to disrupt his prophaganda session. Good humor from Moore about Republicans? He’s more likely to make a lighthearted bon mot about fucking children. What planet do you live on? > > \*A hypothetical million. Wagering is against board rules. Well, he asked if there were any Republicans in the audience, and told the Democrats who’d showed up to (basically) shut up when they booed - and made a point about how his events are open to people of all political persuasions, in contrast to (for instance) a recent local event featuring the Bush twins. Say what you like about him, Weirddave, but he’s smart enough not to do what you said, and during his speech here at school, several Republicans were quite vocal, and he handled it with the utmost aplomb and good humor. You would lose that bet. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/82 "2004-10-10T11:23:04Z")
Just to wrap up this thread… > [@](#): > > [County prosecutors in Michigan reject request to charge Michael Moore](http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/politics-0/1097180341160110.xml&storylist=newsmichigan) > > A request by Michigan Republicans that filmmaker Michael Moore be charged with violating election law has found little sympathy among county prosecutors. > > The state Republican Party asked prosecutors in four counties to file charges against Moore for offering underwear and food to college students in exchange for a promise to vote. State law prohibits a person from contracting with another for something of value in exchange for agreeing to vote. > > Prosecutors in Isabella, Ingham and Antrim counties said they determined no action was warranted. A spokeswoman for Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said Thursday that election law violations should be handled by the attorney general’s office. > > The harshest reaction came from the two Republican prosecutors, Antrim County’s Charles Koop and Isabella County’s Larry Burdick. Worthy and Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III are Democrats. > > “Alleging that a person is attempting to buy votes is a serious allegation, and one that is taken seriously by this office. However, your request to prosecute Mr. Moore trivializes the intent of this section of the election code,” Koop said Thursday in a letter to Greg McNeilly, executive director of the state Republican Party. > > Burdick said he chooses “to devote our resources to prosecuting those who are delivering cocaine to our young people rather than underwear.” > … Moore wins again. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/83 "2004-10-10T15:07:56Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > Well, he asked if there were any Republicans in the audience, and told the Democrats who’d showed up to (basically) shut up when they booed - and made a point about how his events are open to people of all political persuasions, in contrast to (for instance) a recent local event featuring the Bush twins. > > Say what you like about him, Weirddave, but he’s smart enough not to do what you said, and during his speech here at school, several Republicans were quite vocal, and he handled it with the utmost aplomb and good humor. You would lose that bet. I think that’s exactly what his history has shown him to do. He makes millions by releasing films full of half truths and distortions, and could care less for facts as long as his agenda is advanced. He is the consummate propagandist. Reread post #41 and follow the link provided for another good example of how his mind works. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/84 "2004-10-10T16:38:57Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > I hate to say it, but for once the Republicans have a case. > > If a candidate or his representative gives you $10 in exchange for agreeing to vote in November, you are more likely to vote for the guy who gave you the ten bucks because he gave you ten bucks for doing next to nothing and the other candidates didn’t. That’s why the statute prohibits candidates et al offering recompense to someone in exchange for their voting for a candidate of their own choice, as opposed to in exchange for voting specifically for one candidate. > > Moore’s not specifically rewarding people for voting Kerry, but by asking them to vote Kerry he’s made it clear that his encouraging them to vote is being done on Kerry’s behalf. This most definitely puts him in violation of the statute in question. Finally someone with some sense. I don’t understand why people can’t separate their feelings for Bush from what makes perfectly reasonable legal sense. I think Moore would lose this case. I don’t care if he does ordoesn’t, but I think he would lose. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/85 "2004-10-10T16:42:43Z")
BTW, I agree with **Left Hand of Darkness** that the Republicans have little to gain and a lot to lose in this exchange. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/86 "2004-10-10T16:50:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Burdick said he chooses “to devote our resources to prosecuting those who are delivering cocaine to our young people rather than underwear.” I can see the headlines now… “SNIFF UNDERWEAR, NOT COKE” SAY MICHIGAN REPUBLICANS ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/87 "2004-10-10T22:54:39Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > I don’t understand why people can’t separate their feelings for Bush from what makes perfectly reasonable legal sense. I think Moore would lose this case. I don’t care if he does ordoesn’t, but I think he would lose. Didja catch the exchange about _de minimis_? That’s a real legal principle, not just something I made up. I don’t think Moore would lose this case, because the law doesn’t give a flying fuck about petty shit. And you can take that to the court. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/88 "2004-10-10T23:31:05Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > He makes millions by releasing films full of half truths and distortions, and could care less for facts as long as his agenda is advanced. That sounds familiar ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/89 "2004-10-11T02:36:37Z")
It’s easier to say “he makes millions by releasing films full of half truths and distortions” instead of going to the trouble of actually identifying them. (Oh, and to pre-emptively rebute the inevitable right-wing echo chamber: [here](http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/feature.php?feature=1150) and [here](http://anton-sirius.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/18/173312/462/)) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/90 "2004-10-11T02:59:00Z")
For the love of God, let’s not do this\* again\*… ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/91 "2004-10-11T19:05:30Z")
[QUOTE=zut] (i) Voting or agreeing to vote, or inducing or attempting to induce another to vote, at an election.QUOTE] Well, hell - let’s find everyone who works with a Get Out The Vote campaign and lock their butts up. ---
**Author:** ![hiebram](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5fc32e/32.png) [@hiebram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hiebram)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897/92 "2004-10-11T22:13:24Z")
I bet someone who pays more attention to history can correct me/fill in the details, but I seem to remember that George Washington stood on a street corner with a barrel of whiskey and gave a mug-full to anyone who passed by, with the request that they vote for him. How standards have fallen… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/just-when-you-think-republicans-cant-get-any-more-fuckheaded/267897.md?page=4)