# Justice for Marcus Vick

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 6, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808 "2006-01-06T22:37:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/1 "2006-01-06T22:37:28Z")

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[About time](http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5227094) a college actually stood up and said enough.

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/2 "2006-01-06T22:43:43Z")

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As much as I love his brother here for the Falcons, I’m glad they’re doing this.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/3 "2006-01-06T23:08:29Z")

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At first glance, it seems harsh, but he’d been getting in various sorts of trouble. And the stomping thing is not cool. If you don’t take a no-tolerance stance against onfield assassination tactics, it won’t be long before you could have another Jack Tatum on your hands.

Anybody think a pro team will pick him up? I doubt it, unless it’s for bubkis.  
_You do the hokey pokey and you kick the Vick kid out… And that’s what it’s all about!_

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/4 "2006-01-06T23:32:05Z")

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Oh, he’ll be drafted by an NFL team, and it won’t be a throwaway pick.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/5 "2006-01-07T19:56:09Z")

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> [@Jimmy Chitwood](#):
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> Oh, he’ll be drafted by an NFL team, and it won’t be a throwaway pick.

vick gets drafted the second draft day or late the first day. you heard it here first.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/6 "2006-01-07T19:57:30Z")

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> [@Least Original User Name Ever](#):
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> vick gets drafted the second draft day or late the first day. you heard it here first.

He’d be perfect for the Raiders.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/7 "2006-01-07T20:08:42Z")

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_“It’s not a big deal,” Vick was quoted as telling the newspaper. “I’ll just move on to the next level, baby.”_

Unrepentant. Cavalier. Expect more of the same.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/8 "2006-01-07T20:26:35Z")

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Is it just me, or does he sound like the next TO?

I was appalled at what his coach said. He sounded sorry that he was forced to kick him off the team. I think the situation called for a little “he has displayed a terrible lack of character, and we can’t have him on the team anymore.”

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/9 "2006-01-07T20:28:57Z")

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I really don’t get into judging an athelete by his off-the-field behavior, but Jr Vick is pretty screwed up. I don’t think any NFL team will be doing him any favors by drafting him. He seems like a guy who can go through a few million dollars pretty quickly, and then he’ll just be a creepy druggie with no money, no prospects and a couple years of glory behind him.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2006, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/10 "2006-01-07T20:36:03Z")

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> Is it just me, or does he sound like the next TO?

Nah. Owens made it to the top, _then_ became a jerk. This guy’s already unraveling. I think a better comparison might be Ryan Leaf or Lawrence Phillips.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/11 "2006-01-08T01:22:07Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Nah. Owens made it to the top, _then_ became a jerk. This guy’s already unraveling. I think a better comparison might be Ryan Leaf or Lawrence Phillips.

Or Maurice Clarett.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/12 "2006-01-08T01:56:55Z")

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And he’ll make more money his first year than most people in a lifetime probably. Ain’t life grand?

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/13 "2006-01-08T03:39:39Z")

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I can’t believe you peole are being so harsh. He said it was an accident.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/14 "2006-01-08T03:59:21Z")

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I want to see TO, Moss, Clarett, and Vick[sub]jr.[/sub] on the same team.

Since I’m a Viking fan, I vote Green Bay.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/15 "2006-01-08T04:17:23Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> I want to see TO, Moss, Clarett, and Vickjr. on the same team.
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> Since I’m a Viking fan, I vote Green Bay.

Holy crap, that sounds like a high-concept “reality show”. :eek: But I’ll raise you one Ricky Williams and ship 'em all to the Jets – who will dump them all for Vince Young.

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**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/16 "2006-01-08T04:54:12Z")

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**KRM** , I didn’t see it live, but I saw the replay many times. I don’t care if Mr Vick says it was an accident, I certainly don’t believe it. He freakin’ _paused_ as he stepped on Dumervil’s leg.

FYI: I’m a U of L graduate, but not much of a sports fan, so not too much bias. Really.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/17 "2006-01-08T09:33:21Z")

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> [@saoirse](#):
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> I really don’t get into judging an athelete by his off-the-field behavior, but Jr Vick is pretty screwed up.

The pros may work differently, but colleges as a rule judge _everyone_ by their “off-the-field” behavior. And one law that colleges are supposed to be taking seriously is not serving alcohol to minors. I’ve rarely been prouder of my alma mater than when they stuck to their principles and kicked out my former roommate for doing just that (to visiting high school girls. And knowing his history there was no question of his intentions), even though he had major family connections.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/18 "2006-01-08T09:43:54Z")

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I’m glad my alma mater has **finally** had the balls to do something about this petty thug. Sadly, I’m sure that he’ll just continue to be rewarded in the greater arena.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/19 "2006-01-08T18:24:46Z")

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> [@DaddyTimesTwo](#):
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> **KRM** , I didn’t see it live, but I saw the replay many times. I don’t care if Mr Vick says it was an accident, I certainly don’t believe it. He freakin’ _paused_ as he stepped on Dumervil’s leg.

Sorry. I meant to put a :rolleyes: at the end of my post.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-for-marcus-vick/338808/20 "2006-01-08T18:30:59Z")

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You know, these kids are handed a golden opportunity, and then they get cocky and think they’re untouchable. I think any boy that makes it to start on a major college football team should also undergo regular counseling, to keep their heads within a manageable size. That way, if they ever make it to the pros, they’ll have the tools to handle the fame and the money and the pressure. Oh, they should also be required to take money management courses, and the NFL should not even look at them if they don’t have a college diploma in hand.

In my little world…

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