# Justice League 3/12 Chickapalooza! (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 12, 2006, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037 "2006-03-12T13:17:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/41 "2006-03-13T03:18:52Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Not on the show. She’s pretty clearly a teenage girl. Here’s a small spoiler for next weeks ep which I saw through alternative means and proves I’m right. [spoiler]Here’s a quote from Green Arrow in the beginning of the ep. “Some kid, huh? Today’s her 21st birthday but she’s here practicing rather than going on the town with me and Dinah” [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/42 "2006-03-13T04:05:18Z")
> [@Xan](#): > > Here’s a small spoiler for next weeks ep… I think they put that in just so her big decision would be that of an adult and thus nothing the grown-ups would have to fix for her own good. It’s a bit of a snag, especially compared to the more “mature” Galatea, but I’d let it slide. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/43 "2006-03-13T06:44:27Z")
I can’t help but mention that while this ep was fun, the plausibility level is pretty low. You can control Justice League members, and what you do is make them fight for bet money in a casino? Why not, er, have wonder woman rob fort knox? And once they break the transmitters… why not simply make new ones? Why leave the uncontrolled JL’rs free thinking in your fights and risk them breaking out (as they do)? I mean, they basically had the power to control the entire Justice League. And they staged catfights with the technology. That’s pretty, er, damn silly. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/44 "2006-03-13T11:46:44Z")
Kara did mention, in the Warlord episode, she’d been kept on the farm for three years. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/45 "2006-03-13T14:49:16Z")
[QUOTE=Apos] I can’t help but mention that while this ep was fun, the plausibility level is pretty low./QUOTE]A low plausibility level in a superhero cartoon? Gedouttahere! ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/46 "2006-03-13T15:26:49Z")
Classic little episode. I like the little breaks from continuity - gives us a chance to explore things off to the side of the universe, like Bludhaven. Chickapalooza. Heh. Don’t know that it was Catman. Looks like the dog-themed fellow from recent Birds of Prey issues… Hellhound? As for the transmitters - as soon as they’d start using them on a large or public scale to control heroes, someone immune to the effect would push a button in the Watchtower and cut them off. Also note the Joss Whedon reunion of Gina Torres, Amy Acker, Juliet Landau, and Morena Baccarin. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/47 "2006-03-13T15:32:25Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > And from what I’ve heard, the comics and animation guys have little contact. So it’s almost a little eerie that they sync up so well. The animation guys read comics, so it’s not all that surprising. Although given the show’s lead time, I don’t know that it was anything more than coincidence. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/48 "2006-03-13T16:13:19Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Don’t know that it was Catman. Looks like the dog-themed fellow from recent Birds of Prey issues… Hellhound? That’s what I say. I don’t think it was Catman at all. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/49 "2006-03-13T17:32:21Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Also note the Joss Whedon reunion of Gina Torres, Amy Acker, Juliet Landau, and Morena Baccarin. Mmmm, that’s one pretty reunion. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/50 "2006-03-13T19:47:37Z")
Wikipedia seems to think it’s Catman. And the Catman becomes a major character plan was mapped out quite some time ago, when IC was first planned. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/51 "2006-03-13T20:08:24Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > Wikipedia seems to think it’s Catman. And the Catman becomes a major character plan was mapped out quite some time ago, when IC was first planned. Catman has an almost infinitely higher profile than Hellhound. It’s natural folks might misidentify Hellhound as Catman. Best thing to do would be to ask the writers or find a script, if you want certainty. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/52 "2006-03-13T22:13:17Z")
Who was the bull guy he was fighting? And what was up with Sonar’s Band Leader outfit? I mean, no offense to band geeks, but it ain’t something that will intimidate people. Where did they get some of these bad guy outfits? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/53 "2006-03-13T23:06:16Z")
Isn’t Sonar royalty in his home country? I seem to remember his costume being a royal uniform. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/54 "2006-03-13T23:12:18Z")
> [@Apos](#): > > Wikipedia seems to think it’s Catman. And the Catman becomes a major character plan was mapped out quite some time ago, when IC was first planned. In general there aren’t a lot of official channels of communication between the JLU people and DC’s comics machine. (For instance, Dwayne McDuffie isn’t shy about noting that despite JLU’s success he can’t get a job writing comics for DC.) But Gail Simone, whose the main engine behind the Catman revival has also written for the show, and I know that she and Dwayne frequent some of the same message boards. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/55 "2006-03-13T23:20:08Z")
Right, but most decisions about characters and major directions are made by corporate and dictated from above. The writers have some leeway, but they are also under any number of edicts about what can and can’t happen, what characters they can use, and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/56 "2006-03-13T23:33:13Z")
If J.M. DeMatteis was a writer, it is not as if he doesn’t know what is going on in the various comic universes, or can’t find out with a quick phone call. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/57 "2006-03-14T00:59:59Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Isn’t Sonar royalty in his home country? I seem to remember his costume being a royal uniform. Was he? My only exposure to Sonar is the shirtless tatooed guy Wally West and Kyle Rayner fought during their first team-up. I thought he was just insane going on about ruling NYC. Didn’t know he actually had some royal street cred. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/58 "2006-03-14T02:46:55Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Was he? My only exposure to Sonar is the shirtless tatooed guy Wally West and Kyle Rayner fought during their first team-up. I thought he was just insane going on about ruling NYC. Didn’t know he actually had some royal street cred. That Sonar is the 2nd Sonar. The Sonar you see in JLU is the first Sonar, a frequent sparring partner of Hal Jordan and others back in the Silver Age. I assume he’s dead, but I don’t know what happened to him. That Sonar was indeed royalty from some DC Universe postage stamp principlaity and originally started out battling superheroes with his self-designed sonic weaponry to put his country on the map, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/59 "2006-03-14T18:16:35Z")
Something Superman says in the series finale of JLU is pretty darn near a speech he gave recently in the comics. You’ll know it when you hear it. It could be a coincidence… ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037/60 "2006-03-14T18:49:37Z")
> [@bmoak](#): > > That Sonar is the 2nd Sonar. The Sonar you see in JLU is the first Sonar, a frequent sparring partner of Hal Jordan and others back in the Silver Age. I assume he’s dead, but I don’t know what happened to him. That Sonar was indeed royalty from some DC Universe postage stamp principlaity and originally started out battling superheroes with his self-designed sonic weaponry to put his country on the map, so to speak. A poor man’s Doctor Doom? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-3-12-chickapalooza-spoilers/348037.md?page=4)