# Justice League and Wonder Woman both look good!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 23, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709 "2016-07-23T20:46:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/21 "2016-07-26T15:00:03Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> “Okay: like Robert Downey Jr playing Tony Stark, _but on tranquilizers._”  
> “Will do.”

I’ll still take that over “Gravel-grumble grim grim frown grim… Are comic-movies a Serious Art Form yet?”

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/22 "2016-07-26T16:44:30Z")

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I’m not at all crazy about the characterization of Barry Allen in the JL trailer. Everything else looks pretty OK.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/23 "2016-07-26T17:19:49Z")

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I’m not a comic book geek, so I have to ask: the Wonder Woman trailer looks like a WWI period piece. How does she wind up still looking like she’s in her 20’s a hundred years later?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/24 "2016-07-26T17:21:54Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’m not a comic book geek, so I have to ask: the Wonder Woman trailer looks like a WWI period piece. How does she wind up still looking like she’s in her 20’s a hundred years later?

You caught the bit in the trailer where she says her dad is Zeus, right?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/25 "2016-07-26T18:03:14Z")

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While they are on their island, Amazons are immortal. Diana is several centuries (possibly several millennia) old, before she ever leaves the island.

This has been canon at least since 1977, the second season of the Lynda Carter TV show. The first season, on ABC, had been set in World War II. CBS picked up the second season, on the condition that they update it to a contemporary setting (period pieces are expensive). The Steve Trevor of the second and third seasons was said to be the son of the Steve Trevor of the first season.

The TV show would often introduce a new character, then drop hints that he and Diana had a long backstory. When she fought Count Cagliostro, there was some dialog implying that they had been enemies since the 18th Century.

This was less of an issue in the comic books, but they picked up the immortality angle and kept it. Some writers say that the Amazons are always immortal. Others say that they are only immortal while on the island, and that they age whenever they venture into the outside world.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/26 "2016-07-26T18:34:08Z")

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They both look very promising. I like that WW is set in WWI, interesting.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/27 "2016-07-26T19:21:07Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Only just seen _BvS : DoJ_, and she was the best thing in it. I have no problem with her as WW.

I just saw it too. I knew who she was but my brain kept saying “Morena Baccarin.”

My brain also kept saying “I wonder how much Michael Shannon got paid for playing a corpse?”

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/28 "2016-07-26T20:14:39Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> You caught the bit in the trailer where she says her dad is Zeus, right?

Ah, nope. Missed that. That would explain it. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/29 "2016-07-26T23:46:50Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> You caught the bit in the trailer where she says her dad is Zeus, right?

Which was weird, as I thought her dad was Ares because of the old Justice League cartoon.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/30 "2016-07-27T00:34:50Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> Which was weird, as I thought her dad was Ares because of the old Justice League cartoon.

I think she said Uncle. Not father. But that’s not quite right either, actually half-brother.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/31 "2016-07-27T00:49:24Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I think she said Uncle. Not father. But that’s not quite right either, actually half-brother.

Actually, it’s neither, though ‘father’ is closer; she says “I was brought to life by Zeus.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/32 "2016-07-27T01:41:41Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> Which was weird, as I thought her dad was Ares because of the old Justice League cartoon.

Originally, she was a statue made by her mother, Hippolyta, and brought to life by the will of Aphrodite.

[That’s right, Diana had two mommies.](http://pm1.narvii.com/6024/595406b273952a9bbb1d0fe6368376a5e1071091_hq.jpg)

This has only recently been retconned in the comics so that she’s the biological child of Zeus and Hippolyta.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/33 "2016-07-27T17:12:46Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Actually, it’s neither, though ‘father’ is closer; she says “I was brought to life by Zeus.”

In the JLA animated TV show, is what we were talking about.

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/34 "2016-07-29T03:32:49Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> I’m not a comic book geek, so I have to ask: the Wonder Woman trailer looks like a WWI period piece.

There is something a bit Captain America about that, which I am sure is intentional to set the character as being of the same ilk, or perhaps being the DC equivalent of the Marvel property.

Shame they didn’t go earlier - Napoleonic Wars or the Crimean war would have been fun, but I guess the go-to for period wars is always WW2.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/35 "2016-07-29T03:40:17Z")

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> [@TYphoonSignal8](#):
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> Shame they didn’t go earlier - Napoleonic Wars or the Crimean war would have been fun, but I guess the go-to for period wars is always WW2.

Well, if the triggering event for her to visit “Man’s World” is Steve Trevor arriving on Paradise Island, he typically gets there in a crashing plane so it’d have to be 20th Century.

You could make it earlier if he was shipwrecked, I guess.

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**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/36 "2016-07-29T03:46:23Z")

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Hot air balloon in the Franco-Prussian War. 🙂

Anyway, my point about WW2 stands.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/37 "2016-07-29T04:16:31Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> “Ben, we need you to play Bruce Wayne like Robert Downey Jr playing Tony Stark…”  
> “Sure thing.”  
> “I wasn’t finished.”  
> “Sorry.”  
> “Okay: like Robert Downey Jr playing Tony Stark, _but on tranquilizers._”  
> “Will do.”

Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! Well done!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/38 "2016-07-29T12:02:09Z")

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> [@TYphoonSignal8](#):
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> Hot air balloon in the Franco-Prussian War. 🙂
> 
> Anyway, my point about WW2 stands.

Except that Wonder Woman is set in WW1.

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**Author:** ![Scarecrow\_s\_Brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Scarecrow\_s\_Brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarecrow_s_Brain)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/39 "2016-07-29T18:02:37Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> Which was weird, as I thought her dad was Ares because of the old Justice League cartoon.

Hades, not Ares. Hades showed up twice in the JL/JLU (or 3 since JL episodes were all 2 parters). In JL, he was all creepy and rapey towards Hippolyta, and it was implied (or maybe outright stated?) that they had an affair; in JLU, he mentions that he helped Hippolyta sculpt the figure that became WW.

Ares appeared once in an episode of JLU, notable only because he was voiced by Michael York.

sb

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-league-and-wonder-woman-both-look-good/760709/40 "2016-07-29T18:05:28Z")

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> [@Scarecrow\_s\_Brain](#):
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> Ares appeared once in an episode of JLU, notable only because he was voiced by Michael York.

I think twice?

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