# Justice or Not?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 9, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544 "2009-12-09T01:40:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/141 "2009-12-14T03:45:17Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> No, I said in the OP public opinion was behind me and generally agreed with me.

Cite? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/142 "2009-12-14T04:19:00Z")

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I don’t know what kind of right wing cult CURTIS is a member of, but he thinks his strange and aggressive ideas are mainstream.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/143 "2009-12-14T19:00:34Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> No, I said in the OP public opinion was behind me and generally agreed with me.

> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Cite? :dubious:

No, he’s right. [He really did say it:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11866229&postcount=1)

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> If you are arrested public opinion will be solidly for you and you will if convicted be immediatly pardoned by the President.

I guess his hypothetical is only for extrajudicial executions he carries out on locations where federal jurisdiction applies.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/144 "2009-12-14T19:06:43Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> I do respect the government and the people but if they fail should I not attempt to lobby for change? For instance if I thought the taxes were too high would it be not respecting the people by campaigning for lower taxes?

It looks like you’re attempting to make an analogy here. You appear to have missed the mark, though. The analogue for thinking taxes are too high would be just not paying your taxes.

If you want the lobbying for change to the tax code to be your analogy, you have to make your action against the murderer stop at “lobbying to have due process rights revoked.”

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/145 "2009-12-14T19:08:10Z")

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In that case, couldn’t we argue that the whole system is wrong and unjust? This isn’t justice to me. It’s state sponsored murder. If society is okay with it, it’s broken.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justice-or-not/520544/146 "2009-12-14T19:21:01Z")

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Yeah, well that’s why you’re not a superhero, and **Curtis LeMay** is…

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