# Justified 04/10/12: "Slaughterhouse" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 11, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422 "2012-04-11T01:41:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/1 "2012-04-11T01:41:22Z")
From the FX/Justified website: _"After the murder of his friend, Raylan is a man on fire as he goes after any- and everyone he holds responsible on the way to a final bloody showdown."_\* For those who have not yet seen last week’s episode: \*That would be Kentucky State Trooper Tom Bergen. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/2 "2012-04-11T02:57:58Z")
“Now we’re gonna play by _your_ rules.” “Oh shit! It’s a piggy bank!” “Marshal, you are one strange piece of chicken.” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/3 "2012-04-11T03:37:51Z")
I won’t be able to watch until tomorrow, but I read Sepinwall’s review/synopsis. I can hardly wait. Do we know why Arlo hates Raylan so much? I know why Raylan hates Arlo, but what did Raylan ever do Arlo to make Arlo want to kill him? ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/4 "2012-04-11T03:51:15Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Do we know why Arlo hates Raylan so much? I know why Raylan hates Arlo, but what did Raylan ever do Arlo to make Arlo want to kill him? I could be wrong, but I don’t think it’s that Arlo wanted to kill Raylan as much as it is that Arlo cared more for Boyd than he did Raylan, and so wanted to protect him. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/5 "2012-04-11T04:02:34Z")
I love that after previous foreshadowing this season that during the final confrontation Quarles’s minigun would jam, it actually didn’t jam. Because Quarles didn’t have a chance to use it, because his arm was cut off! I guess I should have seen something knife related coming with all the blades Limehouse has been using all season, but I was not expecting that. “You know what they’re saying around the office.” “What?” “That I disarmed him.” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/6 "2012-04-11T04:15:33Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I won’t be able to watch until tomorrow, but I read Sepinwall’s review/synopsis. I can hardly wait. > > Do we know why Arlo hates Raylan so much? I know why Raylan hates Arlo, but what did Raylan ever do Arlo to make Arlo want to kill him? I think part of it is that Arlo has been a no good petty criminal his whole life and probably doesn’t think too highly of a cop. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/7 "2012-04-11T04:15:33Z")
I get the strange feeling that we won’t know who’s working with whom until next year. Does anybody have a flowchart? The cast seems pretty much intact except for Quarles and Errol. Have we heard the last from Adam Arkin? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/8 "2012-04-11T16:54:24Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I get the strange feeling that we won’t know who’s working with whom until next year. Does anybody have a flowchart? Yeah, there was a lot of double-dealing this season. It seems complicated but maybe it wasn’t. I was so sad for Raylan at the end. When you’re rejected by a parent, does it really matter that the parent is an asshole? Quarles letting mom go was kinda smart. The phone call she heard sent the law off in the wrong direction. If Quarles had been able to get the money, he would probably have stolen another vehicle. I don’t want to think of what he would have done with the boys. I laughed out loud when Quarles lost his arm. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/9 "2012-04-11T16:59:16Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > I could be wrong, but I don’t think it’s that Arlo wanted to kill Raylan as much as it is that Arlo cared more for Boyd than he did Raylan, and so wanted to protect him. And that really adds to the scene where Arlo returned to the bar, to check and see whether he killed Raylan or not, and made it seem like he came back b/c he was concerned for Raylan. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/10 "2012-04-11T17:10:58Z")
Yeah, that fits with what Yost said in an interview: > [@](#): > > ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So Arlo really didn’t know who he was shooting at? > > Graham Yost: He did not know. That “man in a hat” thing was something that came up while we were working on the break, the writing, and the outlining of the last episode…Our rationale on that is [Arlo] was headed back [to the bar] to kill Dickie…That’s what he went back to do. The track that we had in our minds was that Arlo sees a guy in a hat, thinks maybe it’s Raylan and shoots him anyway — not trying to kill Raylan but trying to save Boyd. So then in the bar when he sees Raylan, he is, to a degree, relieved that he didn’t kill his son. If Raylan realizes this, maybe it’ll be some small comfort. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/11 "2012-04-12T00:30:19Z")
It was also nice to see Corrine Mackey from **The Shield**. Maybe Vic can be the main bad guy next season. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/12 "2012-04-12T15:49:44Z")
A really nice touch was Quareles reaching for his arm like he would a loaf of bread off a shelf…and Raylan pulling it away with a bewildered, “Are you out of your fucking mind?!” look. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/13 "2012-04-16T12:01:38Z")
Just got a chance to watch the finale. I liked it, overall. I thought it had some great scenes (Raylan pulling 2 guns on Limehouse and his henchman, then looking over his shoulder…) and some good acting. I thought it was a bit anti-climactic though. Raylan himself didn’t get to kill Quarles. My wife and I both thought the FX of the arm being cut off was a little cheesy. Still, next season Boyd is back, Limehouse is back, Duffy is back. I’m sure there’ll be new players too. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/14 "2012-04-16T16:06:59Z")
There a was a nice subtle wrapup that I didn’t notice at first. When Quarles first had Raylan disarm, Raylan said “I’m gonna want that back.” Moments later, Quarles removed another pistol from Raylan’s belt, and Raylan said “You can keep that one.” At the end, Art and Raylan are talking. Art mentions that they can close the Gary case, as they found the murder weapon on Quarles. Raylan is unsurprised. So that was the gun the Quarles tried to plant on Raylan, that Winona recovered for him, and that we last saw several episodes ago! Smooth move, Raylan. You really are the man. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/15 "2012-04-16T16:11:26Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > There a was a nice subtle wrapup that I didn’t notice at first. When Quarles first had Raylan disarm, Raylan said “I’m gonna want that back.” Moments later, Quarles removed another pistol from Raylan’s belt, and Raylan said “You can keep that one.” > > At the end, Art and Raylan are talking. Art mentions that they can close the Gary case, as they found the murder weapon on Quarles. Raylan is unsurprised. > > So that was the gun the Quarles tried to plant on Raylan, that Winona recovered for him, and that we last saw several episodes ago! Smooth move, Raylan. You really are the man. It’s those little touches – the ones they don’t punch too hard – that make rewatching an episode so much fun. It’s almost like they intend half the stuff to be thrown away and only the dedicated viewers finding it on rewatch. Other shows with that same approach wind up being my favorites unless in the process they wind up throwing away the plot! ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/16 "2012-04-16T17:05:49Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > There a was a nice subtle wrapup that I didn’t notice at first. When Quarles first had Raylan disarm, Raylan said “I’m gonna want that back.” Moments later, Quarles removed another pistol from Raylan’s belt, and Raylan said “You can keep that one.” > > At the end, Art and Raylan are talking. Art mentions that they can close the Gary case, as they found the murder weapon on Quarles. Raylan is unsurprised. > > So that was the gun the Quarles tried to plant on Raylan, that Winona recovered for him, and that we last saw several episodes ago! Smooth move, Raylan. You really are the man. Nice catch! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/17 "2012-04-17T03:34:56Z")
When was the last time Raylan killed someone. Did he go all season without a homicide? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/18 "2012-04-17T04:51:22Z")
Was it Raylan who shot the ice pick guy? Do we know if he survived? Raylan did shoot that woman but I don’t think she died. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/19 "2012-04-17T17:27:38Z")
IIRC, there were one-off lines to the effect that ice pick guy lived and the nurse died. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422/20 "2012-04-17T17:37:36Z")
While I can’t confirm the one-off lines, I can [confirm I was correct on the deaths](http://justified.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Deceased). The nurse was Layla, the hitman Fletcher ‘The Icepick’ Nix. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-04-10-12-slaughterhouse/618422.md?page=2)