# Justified - Final Season \[open spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 20, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394 "2015-01-20T17:30:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/245 "2015-04-15T03:09:25Z")

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I liked the way it ended. I am really going to miss this series

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/246 "2015-04-15T03:28:52Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> I liked the way it ended. I am really going to miss this series

Same here. I just hope these actors land in shows that use their talents as well as this one. The writers were brave to go out with a whimper instead of just fucking up trying to be cute or different. _Justified_ has moved up a notch or two in my All-Time Best TV Shows list.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/247 "2015-04-15T11:42:43Z")

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I just read an interview with Walton Goggins. He’s up next in the upcoming Quentin Tarantino movie, then in a HBO comedy series with Danny McBride.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/248 "2015-04-15T11:43:08Z")

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Kind of a shame that things didn’t work out for Raylan and Winona.

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**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/249 "2015-04-15T12:11:13Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yeah, the direction of that scene wasn’t really optimal. It’s as though we were asked to believe that neither was capable of noticing what direction the other’s voice was coming from. (It’s not as if it were a scene filmed inside a place where sound would bounce around confusingly, either.)

Plus Boyd’s white shirt, like his teeth, would have been noticeable even farther away than they appeared.

… but enough about last week. I like the finale alot and it seems like there might be room for a movie in a few years.

Even though he and Winona didn’t work out it seems like the situation with the daughter is a good one.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/250 "2015-04-15T14:10:08Z")

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I also liked the way Ava’s story was resolved

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**Author:** ![Garula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@Garula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garula)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/251 "2015-04-15T15:01:33Z")

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I really liked how the hat played into it. To Boone, the hat was a symbol of masculine tradition, something only the great gunslingers of legend were worthy to wear. Wearing a hat like that signifies membership in a grand tradition of larger than life figures.

To Raylan, it’s just a damn hat. One that happens to fit.

I thought that was the ideal kind of resolution. We finally got the true measure of Raylan. It was the kind of ending where I didn’t know what was going to happen in the moment, but looking back I pretty much can’t see it going any other way now.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/252 "2015-04-15T15:09:44Z")

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Hmm. I was underwhelmed by the finale … it seemed to be lacking the panache of the rest of the series. I think losing Elmore Leonard late in 2013 affected the quality of the writing overall – not that he was heavily involved, but I think he was able to provide a guiding hand. Last season was impacted, and this season was all over the map.

This episode felt really rushed; I don’t think they plotted the entire season very well, and they had too many storylines to try to wrap up. I wanted and expected more from the finale of a series that has been so pitch-perfect throughout its run.

I did like the final standoff between Boyd and Raylan (particularly Boyd’s exasperation), and their last meeting (that we know about, anyway). Those were well done, in my opinion.

I absolutely hated Raylan in Boone’s hat. That was not at all in keeping with Raylan’s character, and it made him look ridiculous.

I dunno. This series was so strong throughout its run; it seems like it coasted to the finish line and lost some quality late in the game.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/253 "2015-04-15T15:23:10Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> I absolutely hated Raylan in Boone’s hat. That was not at all in keeping with Raylan’s character, and it made him look ridiculous.

This isn’t from any of the show runners or actors, so consider it apocryphal:

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> Raylan wearing Boon’s hat is a nod to Elmore Leonard who disliked the show portraying Raylan in a cowboy hat and preferred he wear something similar to Boon’s. Olyphant has said in an interview that Leonard joked he should not be afraid to lose the cowboy hat. The shows creator’s Graham Yost preferred the look of the cowboy hat to the style of Boon’s, but must have wanted to honor Leonard by having a post-Justified Raylan dress according to Leonard’s preference. I thought this made clever use of Boon’s odd obsession throughout the season with hats as a device to guide Raylan to his new topping. In Episode 11, Raylan foreshadows his changing taste when he compliments Boon’s purchase when prompted before a near gun fight between two characters.

I understand the hat is closer to the one actually described by Leonard.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/254 "2015-04-15T15:44:57Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I understand the hat is closer to the one actually described by Leonard.

Maybe there were discussions between Leonard and the showrunners / producers about Raylan’s hat, but in the past Leonard was pretty specific about Raylan’s headgear. This is what he said on his [blog](http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/weblog/raylin_givens_cable_tv_series/) before the show started:

“There appears to be movement toward getting a Raylan Givens TV series on cable. I’m all for it but they better get Raylan’s hat right this time … The real Raylan hat is what Elmore calls, ‘The Dallas Businessman’s Special’ - a felt city cowboy hat called the Stetson ‘Open Road’ - Accept no substitute.”

The hat Raylan wore throughout the series isn’t _exactly_ like that, but it’s a fair sight closer than Boon’s.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/255 "2015-04-15T19:34:30Z")

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> [@Garula](#):
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> We finally got the true measure of Raylan. …

Yes; after all the times over the years that Art put himself on the line to back up Raylan, it was nice to see that faith, er, Justified. 😉

> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Kind of a shame that things didn’t work out for Raylan and Winona.

It was pretty much a wish-fulfillment ending for a lot of men, I’d say: you get to have your child’s love and respect–but at the same time you can tomcat around as much as you like.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/256 "2015-04-15T20:04:31Z")

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What was with the yellow tag thingy on the brim of the hat?

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/257 "2015-04-15T20:07:09Z")

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I have to say I liked this final better than just about any other series I was really into.  
No trite “everyone dies”, and it turns out you can in fact leave Harlan alive.

And then life goes on.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/258 "2015-04-15T21:25:01Z")

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So where’s the money?

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/259 "2015-04-15T23:11:27Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> So where’s the money?

Raylan’s theory was that Wynn Duffy took it in exchange for helping Loretta escape.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/260 "2015-04-15T23:13:25Z")

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Loved the finale. One of my favorite series finales. They did a great job of wrapping things up in a satisfying way. The dialog (and the acting) between Raylan and Boyd at the prison was fantastic. One thing I disliked: the farewell between Raylan and Rachel seemed out of step with their relationship in the series. There should have been something a _little_ more significant there.

> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> So where’s the money?

In my mind I will believe Loretta has it.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/261 "2015-04-16T00:09:56Z")

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> [@wedgehed](#):
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> Raylan’s theory was that Wynn Duffy took it in exchange for helping Loretta escape.

Ava - helping Ava escape.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/262 "2015-04-16T00:10:15Z")

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We dug coal together.

That was as close to a happy ending as I could’ve hoped for.

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/263 "2015-04-16T00:38:41Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Ava - helping Ava escape.

Thanks. :o

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/264 "2015-04-16T01:25:46Z")

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Speaking of Loretta, i do wish we had gotten a glimpse of what she was up to in Harlan. Great ending either way though.

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