# Justified - Final Season \[open spoilers\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 20, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394 "2015-01-20T17:30:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/61 "2015-02-05T18:19:07Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The only problem with the scene with the would be explosives thieves is that Raylan’s gun was still snapped into his holster while he’s facing down a guy with a gun in his hand. He had his hand on the butt, but even with a thumb release, he’d be hard pressed to get that hog out before the other guy started shooting.
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> Boyd being meek with Markham was very well done; I was almost convinced that Boyd was going to forgo the money in order to save their asses. Should have know better, of course. It just served to _really_ piss him off.
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> What’s with the property buying scheme? It seems to have gone away. And what about the old couple that refused to sell? Didn’t we see thugs heading to their house with harmful intent?

I loved that scene with Boyd and Markham. I could see Boyd POSSIBLY forgetting about robbing Markham; but then Markham had to go and rub his nose in it. If they didn’t need to drag that story on a little more; I could see Boyd shooting them both right then and there!

Sam Elliott just doesn’t look right without a big ole mustache.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/62 "2015-02-05T19:17:46Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Sam Elliott just doesn’t look right without a big ole mustache.

Probably why he grew it in the first place. He looks like a Muppet without it.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/63 "2015-02-05T20:56:04Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Probably why he grew it in the first place. He looks like a Muppet without it.

Yeah, that goofy grin just doesn’t go with the menacing voice.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/64 "2015-02-06T00:15:38Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> Wasn’t their hallways conversation outside Calhoun’s great? So much unspoken threat.

Boyd would need to be desperate to use a baby for leverage. But he will become more desperate. I don’t think Boyd intended it at that time as a threat, it is just to let us know that he knows about the family.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/65 "2015-02-06T00:18:18Z")

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I was a bit surprised that Ava didn’t have a gun taped under the table as she has been held hostage at that table so many times.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/66 "2015-02-08T06:16:49Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I was a bit surprised that Ava didn’t have a gun taped under the table as she has been held hostage at that table so many times.

No accident that Markham was sitting in the seat Bowman Crowder died in.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/67 "2015-02-08T15:23:19Z")

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The alliances are getting complicated. Boyd seems to work for or with Katherine Hale. Meanwhile, Ty Walker is backed by Avery Markham. The two groups are bitterly opposed. But meanwhile Katherine and Avery are friendly, even old friends or lovers.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/68 "2015-02-08T16:14:38Z")

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Just a slight hijack, but Mary Steenburgen is as hot as she always has been…

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/69 "2015-02-08T18:16:33Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> No accident that Markham was sitting in the seat Bowman Crowder died in.

My recollection is that we never saw that, only during the first season did we see Raylan, Boyd and Ava at the table, and Raylan shot Boyd in the chest. Boyd was sitting at that time in the place Ava was this season, across from Markham, who was in Raylan’s place, while Ava sat on the side, where Boyd now sat.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/70 "2015-02-08T22:42:19Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> The alliances are getting complicated. Boyd seems to work for or with Katherine Hale. Meanwhile, Ty Walker is backed by Avery Markham. The two groups are bitterly opposed. But meanwhile Katherine and Avery are friendly, even old friends or lovers.

Yeah, I enjoy the show, but I find it best to not examine the plots too deeply. I still don’t know how Boyd stays in business while seemingly losing every single shipment of the last few years, plus having boatloads of money stolen from him every so often. I still don’t know what value Wynn Duffy adds to any transaction. And now I have no idea what’s going on with Katherine.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/71 "2015-02-08T23:11:11Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I still don’t know how Boyd stays in business while seemingly losing every single shipment of the last few years, plus having boatloads of money stolen from him every so often.

He charges $500 per beer.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/72 "2015-02-09T00:06:37Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> He charges $500 per beer.

Except I haven’t seen a paying customer in his bar for about three seasons.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/73 "2015-02-09T00:33:00Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Except I haven’t seen a paying customer in his bar for about three seasons.

Well, it’s no wonder, with beer-pricing like that!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/74 "2015-02-11T04:04:24Z")

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Well, that was a wiz bang of an episode!

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/75 "2015-02-11T05:44:27Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> wiz bang

That scene was more than a little gratuitous.

Nice to see Loretta again. And now we know what the land grab is all about.

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**Author:** ![justmeetee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@justmeetee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justmeetee)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/76 "2015-02-11T13:41:37Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> Sam Elliott just doesn’t look right without a big ole mustache.

Yes

> [@LH75](#):
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> Just a slight hijack, but Mary Steenburgen is as hot as she always has been…

Oh hell yes.

I see a “Gunsmoke” style shootout coming between Raylan and Ty Walker after that move for his cellphone.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/77 "2015-02-12T01:07:40Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> Just a slight hijack, but Mary Steenburgen is as hot as she always has been…

Well, no, that’s just the eyes of love talking. But I will say that her voice is just as sexy as ever.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/78 "2015-02-12T01:09:41Z")

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> [@justmeetee](#):
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> I see a “Gunsmoke” style shootout coming between Raylan and Ty Walker after that move for his cellphone.

The first season was full of them, a major reason why I kept watching (I love westerns — I spend more time watching Encore Westerns than any other channel). It would be a crying shame if they didn’t have at least one more in the final season.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/79 "2015-02-12T04:02:38Z")

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What a great episode! It’s like they’re getting all of the past actors in for one last family reunion.  
Does anyone else think that Ava is especially pretty this season? She’s rivaling season 1 in terms of sexiness. And as a friend of mine used to say: “she has a voice that sounds like she’s being made love to.”

Kaboom!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-final-season-open-spoilers/710394/80 "2015-02-12T04:11:52Z")

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Good episode, but I’m wondering how that guy could have an entire tray of explosives go off and not kill all three of them.

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