# "Justified" - new FX series - anyone watch? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734 "2010-03-17T05:03:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/201 "2010-05-14T17:25:26Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > He didn’t just warn him to get out of town, he basically told the guy “get out of town in 24 hours or i will shoot you on sight”. Which makes you wonder what he would have done had the guy not drawn on him. Art, his boss, asked him that same question IIRC, and Raylan just gave an aw-shucks shrug. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/202 "2010-05-14T19:27:59Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And it’s “Marshals Service” with no apostrophe. It would be if that’s what what I was talking about. OK, so the US Marshals Service has no apostrophe. However in this instance I don’t think the entire USMS knew who Raylan was. I presume it was ONE of his superiors at his local office that he pissed off; which is why I also used singular possessive “US Marshal’s.” And anyway, who really cares? You obviously understood me enough to answer my question (which I appreciate). Would you correct someone in casual oral conversation that you didn’t know? [“…As nitpicking inherently requires fastidious, meticulous attention to detail, the term has become appropriated to describe the practice of meticulously searching for minor, even trivial errors in detail (often referred to as “nits” as well), and then criticizing them.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitpicking) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/203 "2010-05-14T20:26:37Z")
We’re supposed to be fighting ignorance here, I thought. You made a common mistake, and I simply noted the correct spelling (no apostrophe, and no second “l”). No biggie. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/204 "2010-05-15T05:52:09Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > I just started watching this show. I’ve been able to watch from episode 5 (I think). I’m confused about a few things. I would tell you to watch from the beginning, but the best I can decypher the FX site is that episodes 1-3 are not available for viewing. ---
**Author:** ![MsChilePepper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MsChilePepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsChilePepper)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/205 "2010-05-15T09:07:24Z")
Thank you, Zeldar! The Burns/Duffy listing was _not_ updated on IMDB when I made that post last night, and I checked the individual episodes’ pages! > [@Turek](#): > > You’re probably thinking of “Dear John”, a show based around a support group with Judd Hirsch as the star. Nope, I was thinking of his role on Good Morning, Miami. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/206 "2010-05-15T15:27:10Z")
> [@MsChilePepper](#): > > Thank you, Zeldar! The Burns/Duffy listing was _not_ updated on IMDB when I made that post last night, and I checked the individual episodes’ pages! This sort of thing happens to me all the time, especially on those shows that have poor (for whatever reason) coverage on IMDb. I can’t count the times I have recognized a face in some episode and been prevented from enjoying the show by wondering where I have seen that person before. Going to IMDb for cast details works maybe half the time, and it’s days to weeks (if ever) that those pages will have the right credits of the minor roles in the show. A perfect example would be [Full cast and crew for “The Sopranos” (1999)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141842/fullcredits#cast) where actors are shown in order of the number of episodes (over the entire run of the show) they appeared in. It can be a real chore in other series where not nearly as much detail is available. That’s where SDMB comes in to save the day – sometimes! ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/207 "2010-05-19T04:05:37Z")
It was nice to see Sean Bridgers again, and Stephen Root. Any opinions on whether Boyd knew that the third guy in the trailer was a CI? I replayed it to see if there were any hints, and if there were, I sure didn’t catch 'em. He looked stunned (and kinda sad) when he was told Gil was in the trailer. His back was turned to everyone, so he had no reason to fake that expression. I figure he blew up the trailer because he’s getting rid of the competition, but maybe not – he could just blow it up and to hell with what anybody thinks. I still don’t buy his conversion though. I like Virgil’s plan, and it was easy to think of Johnny Burns hatching something like that. “Well, I can’t get a gun into the courthouse, but I can get a snake into his bed and I can fiddle with his car, and then the cops will get him a bodyguard, and that’ll double my chances of ending up dead! Either the cop or the judge will have to kill me! Win win!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/208 "2010-05-19T04:19:38Z")
I’m starting to think that Boyd Crowder’s conversion was for real! He’s had several opportunities for criminality, or to walk away from his little Christian-revival-in-the-backwoods, and hasn’t taken them. I don’t think he knew anyone was inside the trailer (and IRL, c’mon, one of the two meth lab guys would surely have said “Don’t throw that Molotov cocktail in there - Gil’s asleep in back!” _before_ Boyd tossed it in). I liked the guarding-the-judge plotline. I recognized the guy in the bar’s restroom as one of the gawkers by the roadside when the judge crashed, and knew Raylan would connect the dots. I thought he was getting too close to the ethical line twice, but he stepped back both times: paying for the class bongs he broke at the head shop, and backing off when he realized that the weed-growing ex-preacher really wasn’t able to truthfully ID Boyd. I also appreciated that he was able to explain that he doesn’t just shoot people right and left - both the judge, and the guy gunning for the judge, had misjudged (heh) him. He doesn’t think of _himself_ as a gunslinger. Finally, I have to say, Raylan’s impromptu prayer at the beginning (making sure to mention the bombing of a black church AND Uncle Sam’s $50K reward for Boyd’s conviction) was maybe the best thing I’ve seen on TV in, I don’t know, _years_. Absolutely spot on. Loved it. He should get an Emmy for that scene alone. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/209 "2010-05-19T04:37:01Z")
Whether or not Boyd’s for real, he’s sure an interesting character. Living in tents in the woods (and it’s cold – Eva was carrying a sweater) and talking about Rome – it’s a good act. The fact that one of his buddies hasn’t turned him for that reward in means that they’re convinced, at least for now. But where would they go with the character if he **is** for real? I think he’s waiting for Raylan to give up and/or go away. This might be the first time Boyd has been up against someone smarter than he is. I liked Raylan’s honesty too. I’d like to see that judge again, to see if what Raylan did made an impression on him. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/210 "2010-05-19T05:09:48Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Finally, I have to say, Raylan’s impromptu prayer at the beginning (making sure to mention the bombing of a black church AND Uncle Sam’s $50K reward for Boyd’s conviction) was maybe the best thing I’ve seen on TV in, I don’t know, _years_. Absolutely spot on. Loved it. He should get an Emmy for that scene alone. I’d give it to the writer(s). Pithy as a baseball-sized radish. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/211 "2010-05-19T12:54:11Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > I’d give it to the writer(s). Pithy as a baseball-sized radish. The writing is a huge part of why this show works, but it takes the right actors to get the lines to sound real and natural. I haven’t done an actor by actor search for backgrounds and birth states and all, but I recognize a large majority of them are Southerners. The talk is at least as natural as Tarantino’s L.A.-speak in _Pulp Fiction_ and has the same endearing quality as Damon Runyon’s _Guys and Dolls_ lingo. I just love the show’s balls for going after almost every cliche and expected outcome and just taking a mighty whiz all over them. This show had better run for many seasons. Otherwise I’m going to think FX has dropped the ball. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/212 "2010-05-19T17:36:54Z")
Another great ep last night, especially with Root. And it looks like it’s going to be a perfect storm of characters converging next episode. Can’t wait. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/213 "2010-05-20T12:07:29Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > I’d give it to the writer(s). Pithy as a baseball-sized radish. The prayer was good, but the best line was a one-liner: “I wasn’t IN a gunfight. I was NEAR a gunfight.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/214 "2010-05-20T13:32:24Z")
The show’s premiere was the biggest-ever for FX, and it’s been renewewed for a second season. The last ep of this season will be June 8: [http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/weblog/march\_16\_premiere\_of\_justified\_-\_the\_most-watched\_series\_premiere\_in\_fx\_his/](http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/weblog/march_16_premiere_of_justified_-_the_most-watched_series_premiere_in_fx_his/) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/215 "2010-05-20T15:26:11Z")
For several episodes, I thought ‘this is good, not great, but good’ - after these last two, its actually gotten much, much better. As for Boyd, he’s changed, but he still has a plan and he’s using that change to make it happen - almost cult like - really interested to see where/how they take it. I don’t think that Boyd knew the CI was in the trailer, but I do think the other two occupants did, and they likely wanted him dead (or had already killed him) - being able to push that on Boyd is a win for them. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/216 "2010-05-20T16:23:24Z")
Am i the only one who thought Boyd kinda smiled at the end while looking at the trailer, just for a second? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/217 "2010-05-20T17:22:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Am i the only one who thought Boyd kinda smiled at the end while looking at the trailer, just for a second? I noticed that. It’s hard to tell what Goggins was wanting Boyd to be thinking or feeling. Nuance. Mystique. Cool however you slice it. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/218 "2010-05-20T18:24:20Z")
I thought the sorta-smile was sheepish, “Oops! I really screwed the pooch this time.” Or it was a trying-not-to-smile smile. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/219 "2010-05-20T19:00:55Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > I thought the sorta-smile was sheepish, “Oops! I really screwed the pooch this time.” Or it was a trying-not-to-smile smile. I thought it was a “my plan is coming together” kinda smile. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734/220 "2010-05-20T19:02:03Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I thought it was a “my plan is coming together” kinda smile. I could see that, and I like it! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-new-fx-series-anyone-watch/532734.md?page=12)