# "Justified" Season 3 -- Jan/17 Tuesday -- 10 ET Premiere -- Be there! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 7, 2012, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727 "2012-01-07T13:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/61 "2012-02-02T20:51:05Z")
Who was the guy tied to the the bed ? Quarles walked into the room talking on the cell leaving the other guy nonplussed. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/62 "2012-02-02T21:05:41Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Who was the guy tied to the the bed ? Quarles walked into the room talking on the cell leaving the other guy nonplussed. I’m assuming the homeowner… ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/63 "2012-02-02T21:12:23Z")
But why was Quarles keeping him alive? We’ve already seen with the example of the secretary that Quarles doesn’t mind casually killing someone. So he must need for him to be alive for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/64 "2012-02-02T22:00:56Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > But why was Quarles keeping him alive? We’ve already seen with the example of the secretary that Quarles doesn’t mind casually killing someone. So he must need for him to be alive for some reason. to make the mortgage payment? I think its really just a way to tell the audience that this char is ‘really bad’ instead of just ‘mostly bad’ or even ‘ambiguously bad’. I got nothing till they tell us more. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/65 "2012-02-02T22:06:33Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Why does he live in a RV? I’m guessing it is because he has a John Madden-esque fear of flying and needs to frequently hop back and forth between Kentucky and Miami where is screwing with Michael Westen’s life. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/66 "2012-02-03T17:30:30Z")
Does Neal McDonough really glow or is that some special lighting, because he glows. What a beautiful man. Sigh. So if he was practicing with that special gun rig in order to kill Raylan, why didn’t he kill Raylan? I wanted to hear more of his Christmas shopping story. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/67 "2012-02-03T18:41:58Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Does Neal McDonough really glow or is that some special lighting, because he glows. What a beautiful man. Sigh. > > So if he was practicing with that special gun rig in order to kill Raylan, why didn’t he kill Raylan? I wanted to hear more of his Christmas shopping story. He was practicing/cleaning his gun to foreshadow how he will end up losing to Raylan - “If it ever jams, I’m screwed” ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/68 "2012-02-10T14:33:25Z")
Just finished rewatching the latest episode (_The Devil You Know_) to be sure my memory was accurate. I believe this to have been the best example so far if how the writing can go from almost slapstick comedy to tense drama in the span of an hour or less. And the toying with cliches they constantly do is what makes this such a fun show. The bit with Dickie and the cooler, and how all the gimmicks you’ve become accustomed to in similar situations are even verbalized by the characters until the twist is there to make you bust out laughing at how ridiculous it’s been all along. And the showdown with Devil! How malevolent Boyd has become and how cold-blooded he really is. I’m not sure saving the episode will pay off for continued reviewing, but the second time through, knowing what was going to happen, made the structuring of the whole episode feel like polished glass. Maybe not Emmy material as far as episodes go, but surely an example for Writer’s Class and how to play with an audience’s expectations. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/69 "2012-02-10T14:57:15Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Just finished rewatching the latest episode (_The Devil You Know_) to be sure my memory was accurate. I believe this to have been the best example so far if how the writing can go from almost slapstick comedy to tense drama in the span of an hour or less. And the toying with cliches they constantly do is what makes this such a fun show. > > The bit with Dickie and the cooler, and how all the gimmicks you’ve become accustomed to in similar situations are even verbalized by the characters until the twist is there to make you bust out laughing at how ridiculous it’s been all along. > > And the showdown with Devil! How malevolent Boyd has become and how cold-blooded he really is. > > I’m not sure saving the episode will pay off for continued reviewing, but the second time through, knowing what was going to happen, made the structuring of the whole episode feel like polished glass. Maybe not Emmy material as far as episodes go, but surely an example for Writer’s Class and how to play with an audience’s expectations. Where’s the damn “like” button? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/70 "2012-02-10T15:42:06Z")
The whole time Devil was convincing Johnny to join him I was thinking to myself there was no way Johnny would betray Boyd. But by the end of their conversation I wasn’t so sure… But once they were all at the table I knew what was going to happen. If Walter Goggins doesn’t win an Emmy this year it’ll be a travesty. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/71 "2012-02-10T15:57:38Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > If Walter Goggins doesn’t win an Emmy this year it’ll be a travesty. I tend to agree. He’s been an outstanding actor since _The Shield_ at least, and the _Justified_ creative staff have been giving him lots of room to develop an iconic character. I’ve even read in some of the gossip sites where he and Olyphant are involved in some of the “big picture” writing conversations. They are both content to let the others in the cast get their days in the sun and are thereby more concerned about the success of the show. That’s the sort of “generosity” you hear tossed about almost casually when other actors talk about their fellow players. BTW, it’s [Walton.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0324658/) And if you want to see an example of his range, check out the wacky Billy Bob Thornton sleeper [Daddy and Them (2001).](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166158/) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/72 "2012-02-10T19:04:38Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > And the showdown with Devil! How malevolent Boyd has become and how cold-blooded he really is. I saw it differently. Before Raylon shot him, Boyd would have executed Devil heinously. But during the showdown, Boyd was careful to give Devil a chance to reconsider and back away. And Boyd did not want Devil to suffer any more than nessesary, hence the head shot. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/73 "2012-02-10T19:57:40Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > And the showdown with Devil! How malevolent Boyd has become and how cold-blooded he really is. > [@spooje](#): > > I saw it differently. Before Raylon shot him, Boyd would have executed Devil heinously. But during the showdown, Boyd was careful to give Devil a chance to reconsider and back away. > > And Boyd did not want Devil to suffer any more than nessesary, hence the head shot. I see your point and acknowledge that Boyd’s attitude might well be different toward Devil’s fate after suffering a similar wounding from Raylan, and Boyd does deserve credit for easing Devil’s pain. But we must assume that in one way or another Boyd and Johnny had discussed the plans that Devil had shared with Johnny and how Johnny had chosen sides before the “come to Jesus meeting” ever took place. Boyd’s response to Devil’s threat was as cold-blooded as anything so far and the “malevolence” I mentioned might just as well be Boyd’s evolving manner of keeping things close to his vest. Due to the craftiness of the writing and the subtlety of his portrayal of those moods, Goggins is damned hard to psych out and you’re never sure you know where he’s coming from. His glibness and apparent openness with Raylan can rarely be interpreted as “shooting straight” or being open with anybody. That’s the appeal of the character for my tastes. A side issue is the way the creative staff look at individual characters (as discussed upthread about Harrington and Vince, at least) and their longevity with the show. I for one was a bit surprised, if not shocked, that [Devil](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0710271/) who was one of the “regular” cast for at least 8 episodes, would be so easily jettisoned from the show. For that matter, I’m not sure we haven’t heard the last from [Dewey Crowe](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0380632/) who was practically begging to get himself killed! Anybody want to predict how many more episodes Dewey will be with us? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/74 "2012-02-10T20:31:54Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Anybody want to predict how many more episodes Dewey will be with us? 😉 With or without his kidneys? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/75 "2012-02-17T16:12:51Z")
Glad to see Dewey survived. The plot was a bit silly but it was fun, watching Dewey robbing all those places. Did Lance actually think someone like Dewey would be able to steal $20,000 in a few hours? So Raylan’s note – Winona’s leaving? Can’t say as I blame her, but she might have stopped to think that maybe Raylan’s ready for a career change. I think it did bother him to shoot a woman. My only nitpick is the casting of the actress who played Layla. She was fine, but she was too attractive **not** to be a villain. I knew she was shady right away. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/76 "2012-02-17T17:32:55Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Glad to see Dewey survived. The plot was a bit silly but it was fun, watching Dewey robbing all those places. Did Lance actually think someone like Dewey would be able to steal $20,000 in a few hours? > > So Raylan’s note – Winona’s leaving? Can’t say as I blame her, but she might have stopped to think that maybe Raylan’s ready for a career change. I think it did bother him to shoot a woman. > > My only nitpick is the casting of the actress who played Layla. She was fine, but she was too attractive **not** to be a villain. I knew she was shady right away. Don’t you dare say that about my dear Juliet! Clearly she was brainwashed without Sean and Gus there to protect her! ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/77 "2012-02-17T18:19:46Z")
Something’s been bothering me about that whole Dickie/Boyd thing, unless i am misremembering Raylan WAS going to leave Dickie for Boyd to kill until Dickie spoke up about Loretta. Insisting that he could never do that because he is a lawman seems kind of hollow, it’s more like he changed his mind and decided not to give him back afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/78 "2012-02-17T18:55:37Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Something’s been bothering me about that whole Dickie/Boyd thing, unless i am misremembering Raylan WAS going to leave Dickie for Boyd to kill until Dickie spoke up about Loretta. Insisting that he could never do that because he is a lawman seems kind of hollow, it’s more like he changed his mind and decided not to give him back afterwards. Hanging upside down and getting whumped with a baseball bat will change your perspective in the short term. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/79 "2012-02-17T19:44:00Z")
Did anyone else notice that the frisking didn’t include Quarles’ sleeves, where he keeps his wrist-gun-thingy? I’m wondering if that will recur in a later episode. I’m also really hoping Juliet will survive - I cannot look at her enough. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727/80 "2012-02-17T20:48:01Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Don’t you dare say that about my dear Juliet! Clearly she was brainwashed without Sean and Gus there to protect her! And Lassiter… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-3-jan-17-tuesday-10-et-premiere-be-there/608727.md?page=5)