# Justified, Season Five starts tonight! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 7, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140 "2014-01-07T16:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/41 "2014-01-12T06:39:30Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > That said, I’d be surprised if the series continues much further than this season, as the main family lines are approaching an end to their story arcs. The producers agree, and plan to end it after next season. (The sixth.) [Link](http://screenrant.com/justified-ending-final-season-6) ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/42 "2014-01-12T18:12:20Z")
Will _Justified_ go into syndication? Seems like it’ll be hard to do, since episodes have to be watched in order. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/43 "2014-01-12T20:22:09Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Will _Justified_ go into syndication? Seems like it’ll be hard to do, since episodes have to be watched in order. It will likely go to the 21st-century version, streaming. It used to be the golden number for syndication was 100 episodes (close to 5 seasons), but all the cable shows have short seasons of 12 eps or so. The model may have changed nowadays… ---
**Author:** ![Picklejar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4bbf92/32.png) [@Picklejar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Picklejar)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/44 "2014-01-13T14:29:43Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Would you prefer it to be more like Andy Griffith? This is a violent show about good guys and bad guys, and has never pretended to be anything other than an over-the-top, tongue-in-cheek portrayal of that. That said, I’d be surprised if the series continues much further than this season, as the main family lines are approaching an end to their story arcs. Oh please, if you can’t tell the difference between the violence level in the first couple seasons, and this season premiere… I mean really? Blowing holes through people’s heads with the camera fully focused on it…a dude chopping people up with a chain saw for the sick pleasure of it… It just seems like they shifted focus from the strength of the characters’ story to the nasty things they’re willing to do in advancement of their own agendas. For me, no thanks. Violence is naturally going to be part of it, but I’m not into violence for the sake of violence. Guy gets shot in the face for crossing a criminal? OK - but I’d rather not feel like the blood may splatter on my face. What’s wrong with off-camera, or out of focus? I’ll keep my head firmly planted in the sand with respects to the nastier bits of criminal life, thankyouverymuch. This is entertainment, not “Criminal Docu-Drama Educational Series” for the mentally insane. It’s just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes, so I’m sure mine stinks just as much as yours. We’ll have to wait for the ratings to see whether anyone shares our respective opinions. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/45 "2014-01-15T18:18:50Z")
Okay, I recognized Wood Harris – Avon Barksdale in The Wire – but who played his brother? I’ve seen him somewhere but he’s not listed in the credits for this episode at IMDB. The kid that Loretta was involved with – was he the son of a cop? Art said something to Raylan about a cop blaming Raylan for getting his son involved with drugs. It’ll be interesting to see how/if Boyd manages to get Ava sprung. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/46 "2014-01-15T18:23:22Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Okay, I recognized Wood Harris – Avon Barksdale in The Wire – but who played his brother? I’ve seen him somewhere but he’s not listed in the credits for this episode at IMDB. > > The kid that Loretta was involved with – was he the son of a cop? Art said something to Raylan about a cop blaming Raylan for getting his son involved with drugs. > > It’ll be interesting to see how/if Boyd manages to get Ava sprung. In case you hadn’t discovered it yet [Justified Wiki](http://justified.wikia.com/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_All_Right) is **The Source** for cast details long before IMDb updates things. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/47 "2014-01-15T19:05:10Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > The kid that Loretta was involved with – was he the son of a cop? Art said something to Raylan about a cop blaming Raylan for getting his son involved with drugs. My understanding is that Loretta and the boyfriend (Derek?) sold pot to the cop’s son. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/48 "2014-01-15T23:39:42Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > In case you hadn’t discovered it yet [Justified Wiki](http://justified.wikia.com/wiki/The_Kids_Aren%27t_All_Right) is **The Source** for cast details long before IMDb updates things. Thanks! He’s from **Homicide:Life on the Street**. I had no idea he and Wood were brothers. **Dewey Finn** , thanks – that makes sense, since we didn’t see that cop again in the episode. I kept waiting for him to show up and do something about Derek. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/49 "2014-01-16T17:42:47Z")
Not a bad episode, although the actors seemed to be still settling back into the show’s groove and their roles. It got better toward the end of the episode, and I think we’ll see more steadiness and better plot development in next week’s ep. And no blood and gore, which should please our more squeamish comrade. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/50 "2014-01-17T11:57:41Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Not a bad episode, although the actors seemed to be still settling back into the show’s groove and their roles. It got better toward the end of the episode, and I think we’ll see more steadiness and better plot development in next week’s ep. And no blood and gore, which should please our more squeamish comrade. 😉 Just caught this episode. Really? I _loved_ that episode for it’s essential…_Elmore-ness_ 😉 Great dialogue - Raylan and Loretta, Raylan and Loretta’s Counselor/Amy Smart, the betrayed trooper and the Latvian hot wife\*, hot wife and Boyd in the stairwell, Raylan in the showdowns with the black drug dealers and the redneck druglord, etc. Just great stuff. Plot-wise it was more of a setup episode for things to come, but if I get to hear that kind of dialogue and see that kind of acting, I will take it! \*anyone recognize her? It hit me afterwards - there was a car ad set in Europe maybe a year or two ago; a car (Fiat? VW?) drives past and she was featured, head turning to look after it - short hair with much more of an Audrey Hepburn vibe vs. here. It got some attention here I think, simply due to her. She is sculpturally beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/51 "2014-01-17T15:42:23Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > \*anyone recognize her? It hit me afterwards - there was a car ad set in Europe maybe a year or two ago; a car (Fiat? VW?) drives past and she was featured, head turning to look after it - short hair with much more of an Audrey Hepburn vibe vs. here. It got some attention here I think, simply due to her. She is sculpturally beautiful. Ah - here it is: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQPdNY3bXs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfQPdNY3bXs) For the Acura ZDX - she is really beautiful. And she reaches up to tuck her hair back behind her ear - kinda Keira Knightly-ish - swoon. Karolina Wydra - apparently she’s been on House and a few other things as well. Kinda has that Famke Janssen thing going - successful model with somewhat of an accent getting some cool acting roles… Sorry - carry on discussing Justified…😉 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/52 "2014-01-17T16:38:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Not a bad episode, although the actors seemed to be still settling back into the show’s groove and their roles. It got better toward the end of the episode, and I think we’ll see more steadiness and better plot development in next week’s ep. And no blood and gore, which should please our more squeamish comrade. 😉 They did beat up and kill that one guy (“You wanna go Seal Team Six here? Tightest grouping wins.”) towards the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/53 "2014-01-17T16:47:57Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > They did beat up and kill that one guy (“You wanna go Seal Team Six here? Tightest grouping wins.”) towards the beginning. That might just be the highlight of the series! ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/54 "2014-01-17T16:51:54Z")
I was happy to see a little bit of Erica Tazel as Rachel Brooks this week. I don’t think she was in the season opener, was she? Now Jacob Pitts as Tim Gutterson needs to get some good screen time. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/55 "2014-01-23T16:10:44Z")
I have to say that I’m not buying Michael Rapaport’s character yet. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/56 "2014-01-23T17:37:57Z")
I am. I was skeptical at first but I think he’s doing a good job. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/57 "2014-01-23T17:45:22Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I have to say that I’m not buying Michael Rapaport’s character yet. > [@White SIFL](#): > > I am. I was skeptical at first but I think he’s doing a good job. I’m warming to him. I think the writers are giving him good stuff and he’s trying hard to shed those earlier roles where he was weird if nothing else. I do keep flashing on [Dick Ritchie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108399/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_87), though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/58 "2014-01-23T22:34:26Z")
Whoever is playing the owner of the mansion is doing a good job of being a ruthless creep. I enjoyed this week’s episode. Whup ass, Raylan! ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/59 "2014-01-23T23:06:36Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > That might just be the highlight of the series! Nah, when Raylan killed the hit-man dressed as a cop who was taking away Boyd & Ava, he said, “Damn I hope I got that right.” That has got to be the series highlight to date, and the highlight of whatever two shows bracket “Justified” as well, 'cause it’s just that good. Bonus points for great Boyd/Ava/Raylan banter just before. “Seal Team Six” was entertaining, but no highlight of this series could exclude Raylan, and should probably include Boyd as well. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140/60 "2014-01-24T21:02:45Z")
Amy Smart is becoming an interesting character. They’re sure making her out to be an ambiguously sneaky character. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/justified-season-five-starts-tonight/678140.md?page=4)