# Kalt, you bigoted piece of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462 "2003-05-21T02:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/1 "2003-05-21T02:10:54Z")
Ladies and Gentlmen of the Dope, I give you **Kalt** : [Islam should be irradicated](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3446583#post3446215) And [Human Rights have to be EARNED???](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3446583#post3445555) I think I’m going to vomit. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/2 "2003-05-21T02:23:12Z")
Maybe he should have said this: If you blow up innocent people, you forfeit all of your rights and should be hunted down like dogs. I can live with that. This is gonna kick over a whole great big can of worms, but I’ll ask it anyway: Other than the bubbleheads up in Ireland, are there any non-Muslim terrorists left? It seems to me that since they comprise the bulk of the fanatics, we are depriving ourselves of a great deal of security by not focusing in on them for fear of seeming “racist” or bigoted. I don’t really know what to do to stop the suicide bombings, but what **Kalt** said, while extreme, is actually a fairly popular opinion with a lot of people right now, right or wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Hicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbce88/32.png) [@Ben\_Hicks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben_Hicks)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/3 "2003-05-21T02:39:08Z")
**Kalt** is, IMO, very wrong. I’m far too tired and far too drunk to come up with a suitable rebuttal but I would plead with subsequent posters not to take the easy route and just blast **Kalt** for the sake of it. Try being patient and logical instead. After all, you aint gonna change his mind by calling him a bigoted motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/4 "2003-05-21T02:42:06Z")
From the US State Dept’s list of terrorist groups: [http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/12389.htm](http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/12389.htm) None of these are of a particularly islamic bent. Aum Shinrikyo Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) Kahane Chai (Kach) Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress (marxist) Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam National Liberation Army (Columbia) Real IRA Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) Revolutionary Nuclei Revolutionary Organization 17 November Revolutionary People’s Liberation Army/Front Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia Communist Party of the Philippines/New People’s Army And that’s just the official list. Include home-grown terrorist groups operating in the Congo, in what used to be Yugoslavia, in Liberia and the Ivory Coast, and you’ve got plenty of terrorism unrelated to islam. Hell, over 3 million people have died in the Congo as a result of internecine war and terrorist attacks! But we’ve barely noticed here. ---
**Author:** ![DEVA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@DEVA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DEVA)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/5 "2003-05-21T02:45:46Z")
To call anyone a bigoted motherfucker is rather strong and personal. Unnecessary and rude. But I WILL say this after seeing **Guinastacia’s** examples and a couple of other examples of my own: Kalt.is.a.special.kind.of.somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/6 "2003-05-21T02:46:38Z")
What really got me, more than anything, was the “Human rights have to be earned” quote. I mean, if they have to be earned, then, really-they’re no longer human _rights_, are they? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/7 "2003-05-21T02:47:17Z")
Thanks. I had no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/8 "2003-05-21T02:50:40Z")
I think the problem, Qagdop, is we don’t hear much about terrorists that aren’t killing our civilians, or the civilians of our imporant allies (Israel for example). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/9 "2003-05-21T02:54:05Z")
Oh, and **Airman** -it’s good to hear from you again-are you back yet? **DEVA** , to be fair, I called him a bigoted “piece of shit”, rather than a “motherfucker.” The distinction is subtle, but it’s there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/10 "2003-05-21T03:02:07Z")
Yeah, I’m back. And ready to stir up trouble, like I usually do. You know me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/11 "2003-05-21T03:13:18Z")
I hope that pitting **Kalt** gives you some visceral relief. It will not change his views or the expression of them. As I noted on the linked thread: > [@](#): > > Kalt has posted the same drivel on several other threads. When it is pointed out that he is deliberately misreading the Qur’an, he simply goes back to playing “no true Scotsman” games and insisting that his out-of-context, badly translated snippets are the “real” Islam and repeating his falsehoods. > > I have not figured out if he actually believes the errors in his posts, but he holds to them pretty rigorously. There is no point in attempting debate, because he will only keep circling back to a restatement of his false premises. > > (To be fair, he takes the same approach to any other belief system, religious or secular. He is not so much anti-Muslim as anti-human-activity.) I doubt that pitting him or attempting to argue against his little world view will do much more than give him the satisfaction of knowing he’s riled you up. However, _de gustibus non est disputandum_. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/12 "2003-05-21T04:05:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \* > \*\*From the US State Dept’s list of terrorist groups: > [http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/12389.htm](http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/2002/12389.htm) > None of these are of a particularly islamic bent. > > Aum Shinrikyo > Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) > Kahane Chai (Kach) > Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress (marxist) > Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam > National Liberation Army (Columbia) > Real IRA > Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) > Revolutionary Nuclei > Revolutionary Organization 17 November > Revolutionary People’s Liberation Army/Front > Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) > United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia > Communist Party of the Philippines/New People’s Army > > And that’s just the official list.\*\* Um, not it’s not. You’ve cherry-picked less than 40% of the entire list, to prove your, um, point. In the interest of fairness, here is the entire list: **Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) Abu Sayyaf Group Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade Armed Islamic Group (GIA) Asbat al-Ansar** Aum Shinrikyo Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) **Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group) HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement) Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM) Hizballah (Party of God) Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed) al-Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)** Kahane Chai (Kach) Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) a.k.a. Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress (KADEK) Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous) Lashkar i Jhangvi Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK) National Liberation Army (ELN) **Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) Palestine Liberation Front (PLF) Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC) al-Qa’ida** Real IRA Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) Revolutionary Nuclei (formerly ELA) Revolutionary Organization 17 November Revolutionary People’s Liberation Army/Front (DHKP/C) Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC) Shining Path (Sendero Luminoso, SL) United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC) Communist Party of the Philippines/New People’s Army (CPP/NPA) Jemaah Islamiya organization (JI) ---
**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/13 "2003-05-21T04:20:42Z")
Um, **milroyj** , the question was whether non-Muslim terrorist organizations existed, apart from Northern Ireland. Nothing to do with how many there are. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/14 "2003-05-21T04:45:16Z")
Yes, you’re right. For perspective, though, I felt that the whole list should be presented. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/15 "2003-05-21T05:53:15Z")
Why? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/16 "2003-05-21T05:55:55Z")
BTW, that list should also include all of our own homegrown terrorists, i.e white supremacists, militia morons, abortion clinic bombers, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/17 "2003-05-21T05:58:44Z")
I think his point was while Muslim extremists aren’t the only wackos, they do in fact comprise the majority, at least when listed by organization. ---
**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/18 "2003-05-21T06:07:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\*Other than the bubbleheads up in Ireland, are there any non-Muslim terrorists left? \*\* Would that be the Catholic bubbleheads? Or the Protestant bubbleheads? ---
**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/19 "2003-05-21T06:12:00Z")
You forgot to list the Peoples Front of Judea. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462/20 "2003-05-21T06:16:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\*I think his point was while Muslim extremists aren’t the only wackos, they do in fact comprise the majority, at least when listed by organization. \*\* [speaking to **milroyj** , not **Airman**] So what? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kalt-you-bigoted-piece-of-shit/176462.md?page=2)