# Kamala Harris and Donald Trump Debate Controversy **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 5, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279 "2024-08-05T18:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/121 "2024-08-06T16:37:47Z")
I notice Fox is floating a possibility for _after_ the 9/10 date. I believe Harris should stand firm that the next debate is the one previously agreed to under the terms previously agreed to and _ **if and only if** _ that goes through, _ **then** _ consider another one. They are probably hedging that if she does then Trump will refuse those terms, and then they can say to their viewers “hey we tried”. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/122 "2024-08-06T23:26:13Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > …he’s never lost a debate to a POC before. I’m not sure his ego could stand trying again. I don’t think he would ever consider that he ever “lost”, no matter how bad it turns out. He’ll pat himself on the back with his tiny little hands and gloat about what a “Uge Win” it was. Best Win ever. A Perfect Win! Nobody’s ever seen a Win like it before. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/123 "2024-08-08T21:00:21Z")
ABC has announced that there will be a 9/10 debate, as was originally scheduled. DJT in his news conference today said that he has proposed 3 debates on 3 different networks. Doubtful if he had done anything of the sort before today. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/124 "2024-08-08T21:01:25Z")
I started a new thread on this as it is not a controversy as such. The mods can close this thread or do what they want. > [@Trump and Harris agree to September ABC debate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-and-harris-agree-to-september-abc-debate/1005440): > > Just Hope Harris’ prep team differs from Joe’s. The debate is on. Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald J. Trump will face off in a televised prime-time matchup on Sept. 10, ABC News said on Thursday, setting up the latest crucial moment in an already unpredictable presidential campaign. Limited giftlink: [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/08/us/harris-trump-election?unlocked\_article\_code=1.BU4.1nUZ.gz5k2CI5o6-f&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/08/us/harris-trump-election?unlocked_article_code=1.BU4.1nUZ.gz5k2CI5o6-f&smid=url-share) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/125 "2024-08-08T21:07:51Z")
I think Trump really needs those debates to keep himself in front of the voters. Since the assassination attempt he can’t do any more rallies on the cheap and Secret Service approved venues want money up front. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/126 "2024-08-08T22:19:59Z")
Nm, wrong thread. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/127 "2024-08-09T02:05:17Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I started a new thread on this as it is not a controversy as such. Is it settled that there is only going to be the one debate? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/128 "2024-08-09T02:35:40Z")
Not sure much is completely settled, given a month, and given Trump. This says only one debate so far but continuing discussions. Harris should stick to one debate for now IMHO. _Harris had not committed to further debates on NBC or Fox, but told reporters: “I am happy to have that conversation about an additional debate, or after September 10, for sure.”_ _More than 51 million people tuned in to watch the first presidential debate between Trump and Biden in June. Biden’s faltering performance at the event marked the beginning of the end of his campaign. Over the next month, Trump survived [an assassination attempt](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donald-trump-pennsylvania-rally-shooting), Biden stepped down and Harris became the Democratic candidate, launching a campaign that is quickly gaining momentum._ > **[Harris and Trump agree to debate on ABC in September as race tightens](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/08/kamala-harris-trump-debate-abc)** > > Candidates will face off for first time after Trump had previously cast doubt about debating Harris on the network ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/129 "2024-08-09T03:25:24Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Harris had not committed to further debates on NBC or Fox, but told reporters: “I am happy to have that conversation about an additional debate, or after September 10, for sure.” Holy schlamoly some leader said something I wanted them to say? I got to go lie down. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/130 "2024-12-15T00:55:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Yes, particularly because he currently has a lawsuit against ABC. > > [Trump Pulls Out of ABC Debate With Harris, Makes Pitch for Fox News](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/trump-pulls-abc-news-debate-harris-fox-news-1236094738/amp/) > > > In comments posted to Truth Social late Friday, Trump said the September 10 debate had been “terminated,” noting it had been agreed to when Biden was still the nominee. He also raised the issues of legal conflicts he had with ABC; Trump has filed a defamation suit against the network for comments made by anchor George Stephanopoulos around a decision that found the former president was liable for sexual abuse. > **[ABC agrees to give $15 million to Donald Trump's presidential library to...](https://apnews.com/article/abc-trump-lawsuit-defamation-stephanopoulos-04aea8663310af39ae2a85f4c1a56d68)** > > ABC News has agreed to pay $15 million toward Donald Trump’s presidential library to settle a lawsuit over anchor George Stephanopoulos' inaccurate on-air assertion that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer E. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/131 "2024-12-15T01:02:48Z")
That will buy a **lot** of comic books! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/132 "2024-12-15T01:15:54Z")
God damn…another textbook definition of failing up. I don’t know D&D well, but he rolled whatever the max is on the “lucky” column. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/133 "2024-12-15T01:24:02Z")
What I’m seeing on Law Twitter is that ABC had every likelihood of prevailing on the merits of this case. They decided instead to comply in advance and suck up to Trump. The billionaire class will happily lead us all into fascism in order to protect their bottom line, and they wonder why people celebrate when CEOs get shot. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/134 "2024-12-15T01:36:06Z")
The Politico headline as of 8:30 PM EST: [ABC and Stephanopoulos to pay Trump $15M, apologize in defamation suit settlement](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/14/trump-abc-stephanopoulos-settlement-00194391) Notice that the above headline, while substantially accurate, is not literally true — the money is going to the library foundation. The news is the first draft of history. Good journalists make mistakes. I fear the effect of this settlement will be to make journalists so hyper-careful that a lot of news will never come out. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279/135 "2024-12-15T13:03:09Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I fear the effect of this settlement will be to make journalists so hyper-careful that a lot of news will never come out. Agree. Every journalist has to now be hyper conscious not just with the veracity of the content but the words how it is put in. Sad to see ABC have to apologise and pay 16M to Trump (technicaly to the Trump library). I feel it’s basically kissing the ring. Bezos, Zuckerberg, Sam Altman all basically kissed Trump’s ring. Sad to see all of them roll over. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-debate-controversy/1005279.md?page=6)