# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2024 "2024-10-27T02:34:26Z")

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They’ve raised a billion dollars. If they don’t have enough money with a week to go that’s on the campaign.

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I have to admit I’m getting very, very concerned that Trump is going to win. I haven’t been sleeping all that well lately, and I’m not a worrier by nature.

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I’m having the same issue, waking up multiple times with anxiety and not easily able to go back to sleep.

Mostly this is caused by the realization DJT will win. Michigan will go to the GOP. It will be bad.

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Kamala Harris has now been immortalized in an Epic Rap Battle of History:

> **[Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris. Epic Rap Battles of History](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZtKKryjfU%2F)**
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> Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris. Epic Rap Battles Of History. Get a better way to read the news at https://ground.news/ERB and stay fully informed with all sid...

(this is the fourth ERB to feature Trump)

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The Post has not endorsed either candidate (for some reason). The Post’s humor columnist, Alexandra Petri, however has not followed them and has endorsed Harris

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2029 "2024-10-27T14:15:05Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> They’ve raised a billion dollars. If they don’t have enough money with a week to go that’s on the campaign.

There is no such thing as enough money. That’s not even campaign related.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2030 "2024-10-27T14:35:58Z")

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🎵We’re OUTSPENT  
We’re OUTPLANNED  
Outnumbered, outmanned  
We gotta make an all-out stand  
If we wanna beat the Orange Tan!  
~~Hamilton~~ Harris/Walz! 🎶

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2031 "2024-10-27T15:51:49Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The Post has not endorsed either candidate (for some reason).

The Post’s failure to endorse has created a very large commotion; at least among Post columnists and people who read the Post.

There’s a thread about it on these boards.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2032 "2024-10-27T19:53:37Z")

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Sam Harris on a recent podcast - who despises Trump with the fire of a thousand suns - noted that he finds it frustrating that Harris still doesn’t seem adequately prepared to answer questions related to how she’d be different from Joe Biden (or not, I guess) or questions in general.

I admit to a similar frustration. She’s not fantastic live, and at least some blame has to go to her handlers and strategists because you have to think an experienced lawyer knows how to put a few words together.

Anyway, as a weakness, it’s a big one. The most important thing in a campaign is a simple, affirmative message.

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And what is the answer? because Biden has done an amazing job and if she can do half as well I’d call her a fantastic president. I rather she avoid the question than outright lie.

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Ffs, she’s answered questions just fine. It’s like Trump and Harris are being forced to take two different tests here. Harris has to take the LSAT and if she gets one question wrong everyone picks her apart and is like “I just don’t think she’s qualified.” But all Trump is being asked to do is draw as picture of a fucking horsey, and as long as he grabs a brown crayon and doesn’t shove it up his nose people think he’s gonna lower grocery prices.

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> The Post has not endorsed either candidate (for some reason).

The Post has published articles saying that all of the Post’s editors support Harris, and that they just can’t call it an endorsement because their bosses say no. Which is sort of the “I’m not touching you” of endorsements, right as the car goes over a bump and you do end up poking your brother with your finger.

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Ffs, she’s answered questions just fine.

Agreed. She has run as close to a flawless campaign as any other candidate in US History…and in a fraction of the time. If she loses it’s because (disturbingly, and inexplicably) nobody had any chance of beating Trump.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2037 "2024-10-27T20:56:24Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Sam Harris on a recent podcast - who despises Trump with the fire of a thousand suns - noted that he finds it frustrating that Harris still doesn’t seem adequately prepared to answer questions related to how she’d be different from Joe Biden (or not, I guess) or questions in general.

Surely this is missing the point. The waiter is offering you the choice of fillet steak or wet cardboard for your dinner. Replying, “well, first I need to know how your steak differs from the closed restaurant in the next town” is not the optimal process.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2038 "2024-10-27T21:02:53Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> If she loses it’s because (disturbingly, and inexplicably) nobody had any chance of beating Trump.

If she loses it is going to create a weird what-if universe where Joe Biden should have stayed in because he’s the only one who has actually beaten Trump. But take a moment to think about what a Biden campaign would look like right now. I saw an editorial recently that said Gavin Newsome should have been the nominee but if Harris can’t do it, I don’t think anyone else would have been able to either.

> [@RickJay](#):
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> Harris still doesn’t seem adequately prepared to answer questions related to how she’d be different from Joe Biden

I still think there is zero value to this question beyond fishing for soundbites to manufacture artificial drama between Harris and Biden. She is going to do everything differently because she is a different person. End of story. But if she dares to say that out loud, the front page news will be “KAMALA HARRIS WIPES HER ASS WITH JOE BIDEN” because the world in which those two hate each other and are fighting constantly is more entertaining than the world in which they get along.

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> It’s like Trump and Harris are being forced to take two different tests here. Harris has to take the LSAT and if she gets one question wrong everyone picks her apart and is like “I just don’t think she’s qualified.” But all Trump is being asked to do is draw as picture of a fucking horsey, and as long as he grabs a brown crayon and doesn’t shove it up his nose people think he’s gonna lower grocery prices.

Brilliant!

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> … for simple people (those last minute undecided voters), it comes across as contradictory to argue that Trump is an antidemocratic menace _and_ inept. And of the two options, he thinks it’s more urgent to warn people that Trump is _dangerous_ than to mock him as a dunce.

I get that, but in these days of siloed media, you really CAN target voters with your messages. Send the bros the proof that Trump is weak, and send the registered Dems who don’t always vote the proof that he’s dangerous. Also:

> [@Chronos](#):
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> How about “dangerous because he’s a dunce”, like the portrayal of Reagan in “Land of Confusion”?

> [@TroutMan](#):
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> I really wish that, post-debate, they’d leaned more into how easy it is to manipulate him. That captures well the “dangerous and an idiot” idea.

Yes to both of those.

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> She has run as close to a flawless campaign as any other candidate in US History…and in a fraction of the time. If she loses it’s because (disturbingly, and inexplicably) nobody had any chance of beating Trump.

I agree. Presidential races have been getting closer and closer for some time now, never getting far from the 50-50 mark. And this is not really about the candidates. It’s about the demographic divide. About half of those voting believe ardently that only the Republicans will protect their privilege, and about half believe ardently that only the Democrats can create opportunity for all.

If we survive this election _as a nation that continues to have elections_, we’re going to see the same phenomenon every four years for quite a while. (And if we DON’T survive as such a nation, Gavin Newsom wouldn’t have made any difference.)

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> > [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> > Ffs, she’s answered questions just fine.
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> Agreed. She has run as close to a flawless campaign as any other candidate in US History…and in a fraction of the time.

Agreed.

No campaign is flawless. None. There was a mistake once when asked what she would have done differently from Biden. When asked again, she was prepared.

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> But all Trump is being asked to do is draw as picture of a fucking horsey, and as long as he grabs a brown crayon

Are you sure that was a crayon?

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So a speaker at a Trump rally called PR a “pile of garbage.” That seems like a bad idea if you’re reaching out to folks.

But on Kamala’s side she got another musical endorsement. I don’t know this guy, but he sounds like a big deal.

> **[Bad Bunny supports Kamala Harris and shares campaign video on Puerto Rico](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/bad-bunny-supports-kamala-harris)**
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> Artist shares video with over 45 million Instagram followers as Harris and Trump work to gain ground with Latino voters

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