# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 109
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2184 "2024-10-30T17:49:29Z")
I don’t mean to imply that Trump is any better than Harris using new media. He still thinks holding rallies for fans is all he has to do to win. I do think he got the Rogan thing right. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2185 "2024-10-30T17:52:03Z")
Any time you have the opportunity to do a softball interview that reaches tens of millions of viewers you simply fucking find the time to GO do it. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2186 "2024-10-30T17:53:05Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I guess our opinions differ. During Covid I suffered through all the zoom interviews on shows. They sucked. I listen to a lot of podcasts. Everyone hated doing shows that way. No one wants to go back. I don’t blame any talk show host who doesn’t to work like that. You’re not wrong and I appreciate your posts this morning because I’ve learned a lot. It’s still beside the point. Even if Zooming was infinitely superior, Rogan can still choose to do things his way on his show. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2187 "2024-10-30T18:05:53Z")
now the news is all: “biden’s garbage” comment. great. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2188 "2024-10-30T18:06:20Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It’s his fucking show and he sets the rules and they’re the same for everyone. Don’t like it, don’t go on Rogan. Not disagreeing at all. But you just know that if the tables were turned – Harris went to Austin, but Trump wanted Rogan to come to him – Trump would howl about illegal election interference and demand that Rogan’s license be revoked. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2189 "2024-10-30T18:09:59Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > now the news is all: “biden’s garbage” comment. Honestly, this has me reconsidering my support _for_ Joe Biden. :rolleyes: If [Hunter Biden = Joe Biden], then – in TrumpLogic (not a thing) – I suppose [Biden’s thoughts = Harris’s thoughts]. To these people. ETA: Conservative pollster, [**Frank Luntz**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz) is on CNN now. His feeling is … this ‘garbage’ comment by Biden might materially drive turnout for Trump ☹ ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2190 "2024-10-30T18:11:25Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > He reacted to the Puerto Rico joke by saying “The only garbage are his supporters Not precisely, though it can be taken that way. He said that the only garbage was that Trump supporter’s joke. [https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5172187/joe-biden-garbage-trump-puerto-rico](https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5172187/joe-biden-garbage-trump-puerto-rico) > Well, let me tell you something. I don’t – I – I don’t know the Puerto Rican that – that I know – or a Puerto Rico, where I’m fr- – in my home state of Delaware, they’re good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see floating out there is his **supporter’s** – his – his demonization of Latinos is unconscionable, and it’s un-American." Of course, nobody can hear an apostrophe. But in any case: it ain’t Biden who’s running. Though it’s not this board who I need to remind of that. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Weirdly, I’ve been thinking this was exactly the strategy the Harris-supporting PACs needed to do for a long time: remind the wives of Trumpist husbands that they can vote for whomever they want and no one will know. It’s a good ad for a certain audience. It would have been a terrible ad coming out of the Harris campaign, as there’s a strong assumption there that women are afraid to tell their husbands the truth about their votes. Some women are, of course. But if Harris came out with that, there’d be a faux-rage outcry claiming it was meant to be all women, and that Harris thought all Republican marriages were abusive, or something of that sort. > [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Former Governor Arnold says he hates politics and doesn’t do endorsements I would say that (quoted shortly after by @Johnny_L.A; thanks, I can’t read xitter ) is an endorsement. And a pretty vehement one, even if it is a voting-against instead of a voting-for. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2191 "2024-10-30T18:19:06Z")
This “garbage” scandal seems to be entirely media-driven. It’s making headlines because the media is writing stories about it. No one is telling them to. And unless youre in the basket of deplorables, you’re probably not clutching your pearls over the remark. I keep hoping Trump says something stupider to change the narrative, but so far he’s not stepping on his own dick. And therefore the media will continue to dedicate ink to a lame duck 80-year-old gaffe machine who- surprise, surprise- made a gaffe. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2192 "2024-10-30T18:24:43Z")
Re: Biden’s (was it/wasn’t it) gaffe: I’m giving this one easily to Biden, much as I gave [**Rich Lowry**](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/17/g-s1-23411/rich-lowry-national-review-haitian-migrants-racial-slur) the benefit of the doubt in _his_ misspeak incident. I’d seen Lowry interviewed many times over the years, and never once got the overt racist vibe from him. And Biden’s – as we all know – a gaffe _machine,_ but his use of the word “his,” immediately following the [supporters/supporter’s] utterance cinches it _for me_. But if you’re explaining, you’re losing, and if you’re Trump, you’re lying … TO an audience who’ll buy absolutely anything you’re selling. Harris, the Democrats, _and_ Biden truly have to play error-free ball for just a short while longer. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2193 "2024-10-30T18:35:37Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > But if you’re explaining, you’re losing, and if you’re Trump, you’re lying … TO an audience who’ll buy absolutely anything you’re selling. Oh, Trump is going to flog it for the next several months, long past election day. He has nothing else. He’d rather run against Biden, and the media will cover it. It wouldn’t have mattered how Biden said it. Just by invoking the word, ‘garbage,’ it was destined to be deliberately misconstrued. It’s what Trump and his minions do. It’s just noise at this point, IMHO. Much too late to have any lasting impact. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2194 "2024-10-30T18:41:55Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s just noise at this point, IMHO. Much too late to have any lasting impact. I sincerely hope you’re right (and I’m kinda in the 85/15 camp that you are). I just keep harkening back to the “basket of deplorables” crack that will be debated till the end of time. I hope this isn’t v2.0 of that. I do find it kinda funny that online MAGA (primarily comments on Facebook) are clinging to this one like it’s their last hope. I hope that means good things to come if/when the comment blows over in a couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2195 "2024-10-30T18:47:09Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s just noise at this point, IMHO. Much too late to have any lasting impact. Or any material impact, period. Seriously, who is insulted by this who wasn’t already voting Trump? This will get someone off their ass who otherwise would have abstained? I don’t think so. It’s a pointless discussion for the chattering classes. Not at all the seminal, motivating “deplorables” comment that helped energize (and define) the then-burgeoning cult. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2196 "2024-10-30T18:55:55Z")
Belated comment. This Supreme Court decision is crap because it means that anybody who failed to check the 'I am a citizen" box on their driver’s license application or anyone who became a citizen since then has been purged from the voter rolls. However, Virginia does have election day registration so presumably someone who shows up to vote and is not listed can still reregister. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2197 "2024-10-30T19:00:00Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > I just keep harkening back to the “basket of deplorables” crack that will be debated till the end of time. I hope this isn’t v2.0 of that. “Basket of deplorables” was different because it drew the battle lines between us and them, and the right was able to leverage it to say “this is what they think of you.” But they’ve been leaning heavily into this for 8 years now. There’s no one left to win over with that argument. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2198 "2024-10-30T19:10:41Z")
Thing is, Trump supporters _are_ garbage. It’s just not politically expedient to say so. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2199 "2024-10-30T19:55:03Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > I sincerely hope you’re right (and I’m kinda in the 85/15 camp that you are). It 100% won’t matter. The **worst** way to interpret it is that he insulted Trump supporters. So? That’s not going to suddenly galvanize them. They’re already brainwashed into thinking he’s an evil, corrupt, criminal puppet of China who is also senile and Kamala has been secretly running things for four years so blame her for worldwide inflation. This is guaranteed not to move the needle a hair. Trump’s rally on the other hand was attacking entire populations of people, including undecided voters or people on the fence. That’s why that one matters. This Biden comment only matters to media gadflies desperate for a bit more attention in the middle of the election circus. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2200 "2024-10-30T19:58:41Z")
“Basket of deplorables,” quit aside from its content, is also just a peculiar turn of phrase, which made Clinton sound like a weird alien. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2201 "2024-10-30T20:03:14Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I don’t mean to imply that Trump is any better than Harris using new media. Trump will ALWAYS get more views. His admirers will watch because they like him, and his detractors will watch him knowing he will say something that should be disqualifying. Harris is almost always preaching to her choir. Her detractors just ignore her until FOX editors get a chance to edit her comments out of context. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2202 "2024-10-30T20:10:23Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The **worst** way to interpret it is that he insulted Trump supporters. So? > That’s not going to suddenly galvanize them. They’re already brainwashed into thinking he’s an evil, corrupt, criminal puppet of China who is also senile and Kamala has been secretly running things for four years so blame her for worldwide inflation. This is guaranteed not to move the needle a hair. I agree. I think, too, that the Biden gaffe is NOT comparable to the Trump campaign okaying the “comedian” to insult Puerto Ricans, Latinos in general, black people, women, etc. Bored anchors at CNN and MSNBC will try to equate them. But they won’t succeed. Harris has made clear that she doesn’t share the view that Trump voters are ‘garbage’, while noting that Biden didn’t say that they were. She’s disavowed that sentiment; Trump has _failed_ to disavow the hate spewed at his MSQ rally. Even less-engaged voters can see the difference. CNN and MSNBC aren’t going to be able to find man-on-the-street interviews (saying Kamala is awful because Joe spoke awkwardly and unwisely). They’ve been running such interviews with people reacting strongly to the Trump “comedian” and to the fact that Trump hasn’t denounced the “jokes.” They won’t find such interviews of people reacting strongly to Joe. Still, the coverage of the Madison Square Garden hatefest was helpful. Joe ended that. Deliberately? No–no matter how deteriorated he may be, he consciously understands that a Trump Presidency could be personally disastrous for him and for his family members. Unconsciously? Sure, Joe, on some level, would get some pleasure from tanking Harris. We all understand that dynamic. So now 95% of politics reporters will be slavering to get Kamala or someone close to her to say something negative about Joe. That’s all that they will be focused on. (_Great_ time for Donald to stomp a kitten to death, if that’s what he’s of a mind to do.) ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2203 "2024-10-30T20:13:51Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Joe, on some level, would get some pleasure from tanking Harris. We all understand that dynamic. I don’t. I mean, I get what you’re hinting at – the benched QB on some level enjoys seeing his replacement lose – but considering the stakes, I doubt that idea enjoys even a 0.01% part of Joe’s mind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=108) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=110)