# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![Ferris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ferris/32/11573_2.png) [@Ferris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferris)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2244 "2024-10-31T03:53:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …his campaign is built around rehashing old grievances. Just picking out this one point in an excellent post: ISTM that ‘old grievances’ is what his audience largely _wants_ to hear - along with all the ‘clever’ insults that _stick it to the libs!_ So as a campaign strategy, it probably keeps the base happy. Meaning that making any inroads from the Democratic party by offering thoughtful policy positions is going to be tough. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2245 "2024-10-31T05:30:44Z")
You know sometime before the recent garbage dust-up trump called Harris supporters, “Absolute garbage.” I don’t know precisely where and when, but I saw a clip of trump the garbage spewer, on The Last Word tonight. That doesn’t include the truely disgusting things he and his clown show have calle Kamala Harris, and anyone associated with or supporting her. Biden didn’t call people garbage trump and his creeps did. And they blithely get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2246 "2024-10-31T05:37:55Z")
I don’t think that’s true. Biden is not a malicious person consciously or not. He was attempting to say that “comedian” was spewing garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2247 "2024-10-31T08:21:26Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > You know sometime before the recent garbage dust-up trump called Harris supporters, “Absolute garbage.” I don’t know precisely where and when, but I saw a clip of trump the garbage spewer, on The Last Word tonight. _Daily Kos_ has you covered. > **[That time Trump called Harris supporters "Scum and Absolute Garbage"](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/30/2281112/-That-time-Trump-called-Harris-supporters-Scum-and-Absolute-Garbage)** > > MAGAs are super duper upset and outraged that Biden had a gaffe that suggested he thought they were “Garbage.” Rubio: Moments ago Joe Biden stated that our supporter are “garbage.” \[Boos\] He’s talking about the Border Patrol. He’s talking about... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2248 "2024-10-31T09:57:52Z")
That’s really helpful, but that’s nothing compared to the gem from Tucker Carlson further down in the article. It’s embedded in a Xitter post but for those who abstain, Carlson is saying: > [@](#): > > Tim Walz is obviously gay… Maybe he’s not gay but he certainly seems gay… I don’t have any evidence but he looks super gay to me. …yeah… 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2249 "2024-10-31T10:48:06Z")
Jeez, Tucker. Nothing like middle school insults. Hey, just try a little harder in Phys. Ed. and you might get passed into the eighth grade. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2250 "2024-10-31T13:13:50Z")
The polls are “fixed” to match the registered voters. They should all just summarize that “it will be close” and move on to polling 2026. Any other conclusion and they lose credibility. As far as the candidates, they both focus on voters showing up. Kamala could use a good stunt. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2251 "2024-10-31T15:54:00Z")
Moderating: > [@TeroSunbear](#): > > The polls are “fixed” to match the registered voters. They should all just summarize that “it will be close” and move on to polling 2026. Any other conclusion and they lose credibility. Please pay attention to the mod notes in threads. There’s one just 7 posts above yours by me that directs posters to take polls discussion to a more appropriate thread. I’m going to assume you missed it, but for the second time, please leave off discussion of polls in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2252 "2024-10-31T16:08:11Z")
In July, Bouzy confidently predicted that if Biden dropped out of the race, Trump would easily win, 327-211. As he based this prediction on, as near as I can tell, no actual objective evidence at all, I am dubious of his methods. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2253 "2024-10-31T16:14:36Z")
it looks like there will be harris rally in phila. on election eve. in 2016 i went to the one that hillary had at independence hall. i for sure thought she would win. this time the rally will be at the art museum… i’m just not as confident this time. i am putting my trust in a few things that give me hope. sadly i have seen people in this country do so many things that are against the best interests of themselves and others to have any confidence. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2254 "2024-10-31T18:10:43Z")
Thanks! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2255 "2024-10-31T21:55:46Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s embedded in a Xitter post but for those who abstain, Carlson is saying: > > > [@](#): > > > > Tim Walz is obviously gay… Maybe he’s not gay but he certainly seems gay… I don’t have any evidence but he looks super gay to me. Mr. “Testicle Tanning” doesn’t have a lot of room to display his obsession with gay men without causing the kind of conclusions he won’t like. > [@Sylvanz](#): > > Biden is not a malicious person consciously or not. He was attempting to say that “comedian” was spewing garbage. I agree with both those remarks (with the demurral that no one’s subconscious can be fully known, by themselves or by others). I think it’s fair to ask, though: what is the _ **politically astute** _ way to use the word “garbage” about a human being? . . . To those outraged about my suggestion that Biden may have had unconscious impulses that led him to speak unwisely: I get that you’re outraged, as well as certain that you have full knowledge of Biden’s unconscious mind. I get also that you believe that noting that Biden may not be fully in control of his unconscious mind, is equivalent to saying that he consciously hates Harris (as the Republicans love to claim). I don’t think either of those is true or useful. But I don’t see any point in arguing it further. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2256 "2024-10-31T22:46:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Mr. “Testicle Tanning” doesn’t have a lot of room to display his obsession with gay men without causing the kind of conclusions he won’t like. Given that every accusation from the right is a confession, I’m wondering if there’s more than just rumors circulating out there that, despite his childhood protestation, [JD Vance _does_ want to suck dicks](https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-convinced-himself-gay-hillbilly-elegy-trump-vp-2024-7)? He certainly seems to hate women and being a father. I mean, maybe he’s not gay but he certainly seems gay. I don’t have any evidence but he looks super gay to me. And the right love to accuse Biden of what Trump is guilty of, so… ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2257 "2024-10-31T22:58:21Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I get that you’re outraged, as well as certain that you have full knowledge of Biden’s unconscious mind. Of course I’m not certain of that. I’m only certain that you’re not certain of it either. What you said was > [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sure, Joe, on some level, would get some pleasure from tanking Harris You didn’t say that maybe he might. You said that he definitely would. That would require that you have full knowledge of Biden’s unconscious mind; which strikes me as extraordinarily unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2258 "2024-10-31T23:31:05Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > despite his childhood protestation What a ya gonna say to your grandma? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2259 "2024-10-31T23:46:20Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > You didn’t say that maybe he might. You said that he definitely would. It also ignores the fact that Biden is 81 years old, and was facing the possibility of losing to Trump, and having everything he’d ever worked for in his life utterly trashed by an unseemly brute. You get to a point in your life where you’d like to set your burdens down, but fear that no one else will pick them up. I saw that with my own father before he passed away. I have no doubt that Biden is genuinely pleased that Harris stepped up so well to take his place, and that so many people stepped up to support her. He finally sees a chance to let things go, secure in the hands of a decent heir. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2260 "2024-11-01T00:46:41Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > It also ignores the fact that Biden is 81 years old, and was facing the possibility of losing to Trump Yeah, the last thing Biden wants is to have to attend Trump’s _second_ ::shudder:: inauguration. If, instead, he can smile and hug President Harris while Trump possibly sits in prison (sentencing in New York is after the election), that’s pretty much perfection. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Given that every accusation from the right is a confession, I’m wondering if there’s more than just rumors circulating out there that, despite his childhood protestation, [JD Vance _does_ want to suck dicks](https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-convinced-himself-gay-hillbilly-elegy-trump-vp-2024-7)? He certainly seems to hate women and being a father. It’s indeed plausible; there’s that discussion with his grandmother when he was a kid, the reference to it in his memoir, and, as you note, he has a view of women as mere functionaries; unlike Trump, Vance doesn’t seem to have any sexual interest in women. If his wife hews to her cultural roots, then she may also view their marriage as one of practicality instead of passion. And it puts his relationship with Peter Thiel in a new light. Thiel is usually credited with being his benefactor, who has promoted his career since law school. Thiel is not only gay, but he was closeted, and in a marriage, before he was outed by Gawker and then spent millions to bankrupt them (by way of Hulk Hogan, of all people; I’m sure conversations at the GOP convention were fun). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2261 "2024-11-01T03:03:32Z")
Oh, aren’t they always? I’m feeling a little better about Harris’s chances now, but it’s still too damn close. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2262 "2024-11-01T05:00:22Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I think it’s fair to ask, though: what is the _ **politically astute** _ way to use the word “garbage” about a human being? > . Maybe “deplorable” was a better choice. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2263 "2024-11-01T05:40:34Z")
Tony “the Mooch” Scaramucci is the latest former Trump flunky to endorse Harris. > **['The change we need': Anthony Scaramucci shreds 'incompetent' Trump as he...](https://www.rawstory.com/anthony-scaramucci-2669561807/)** > > Anthony Scaramucci sang the praises of Kamala Harris and shredded his former boss as he announced his endorsement. Scaramucci, often referred to as "The Mooch," is best known for his 10-day stint as the White House director of communications under... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=111) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=113)