# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2304 "2024-11-02T14:18:09Z")
IF Kamala were to lose [goes outside, turns around 3 times and spits] it would mean: Fundraising doesn’t matter Endorsements don’t matter Ground game doesn’t matter Character doesn’t matter All that matters is promising to deport Mexicans. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2305 "2024-11-02T14:23:41Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Fundraising doesn’t matter > Endorsements don’t matter > Ground game doesn’t matter > Character doesn’t matter Or enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2306 "2024-11-02T15:07:36Z")
On NPR’s _Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me,_ Peter Segel\* just used a phrase that sums it all up nicely: **“the world’s most annoying coin flip.”** (\*Seigel? Who knows with these radio folks!) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2307 "2024-11-02T15:11:06Z")
If you need a ride to the polls and you live in PA, this might help you out: > **[Drive Your Ballot](https://www.driveyourballot.com/)** > > Ensuring that Americans can continue to exercise their right to vote by driving voters to polling and ballot drop-off locations for the 2024 election. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2308 "2024-11-02T15:13:48Z")
Or it means “we are never going to vote for a woman.” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2309 "2024-11-02T15:15:01Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Either way, Trump should declare victory, according to Steve Bannon. He’s been doing that for the last 4 years, he ain’t stopping now. Bannon may as well advise him to lie relentlessly and eat McDonalds. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2310 "2024-11-02T15:18:25Z")
I didn’t see who made this one. Was it Harris or somebody else? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2311 "2024-11-02T15:56:16Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (\*Seigel? Who knows with these radio folks!) Sagal. > **[Peter Sagal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sagal)** > > Peter Daniel Sagal (born January 31, 1965) is an American humorist, writer, and host of the National Public Radio game show Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! and the PBS special Constitution USA with Peter Sagal. > Sagal was raised in a Jewish family in Berkeley Heights, New Jersey, son of Matthew and Reeva Sagal. Matthew was a telecommunications executive, and Reeva was a schoolteacher who became a stay-at-home mother. > Sagal is a 1987 graduate of Harvard College, where one of his college roommates ... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2312 "2024-11-02T17:27:19Z")
I think Harris. The YouTube video was from the Italian-American Democratic Society or something. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2313 "2024-11-02T20:40:31Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2314 "2024-11-02T20:47:42Z")
And I bet they didn’t even have to fly people in from other states, lie to them about the job and pay, drive them around in the backs of moving vans, and threaten to strand them with no food or money or shelter, either! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2315 "2024-11-02T21:33:17Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > IF Kamala were to lose [goes outside, turns around 3 times and spits] it would mean: > > Fundraising doesn’t matter > Endorsements don’t matter > Ground game doesn’t matter > Character doesn’t matter > > All that matters is promising to deport Mexicans. It’s dismaying. But we have to acknowledge that when the top one percent decide to exploit tribalism, they can convince about half the population to vote against their own interests. It helps when that top one percent has, over several years, turned “news” into a strictly tribal enterprise. Facts cannot penetrate those borders. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2316 "2024-11-02T22:54:50Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It helps when that top one percent has, over several years, turned “news” into a strictly tribal enterprise. Facts cannot penetrate those borders. I think the 24 hour news networks are one of the worst things that ever happened to American society. Think what a better world this would be if we all just watched Walter Cronkite for 30 minutes each night. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2317 "2024-11-02T22:59:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But we have to acknowledge that when the top one percent decide to exploit tribalism, they can convince about half the population to vote against their own interests. > > It helps when that top one percent has, over several years, turned “news” into a strictly tribal enterprise. Facts cannot penetrate those borders. You left out the Russians. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2318 "2024-11-02T23:37:34Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But we have to acknowledge that when the top one percent decide to exploit tribalism, they can convince about half the population to vote against their own interests. I agree with your point, but better to end with something like “they can convince about half the population to vote for the top one-percent’s interests”. We should not be like the one-percenters by telling others what we think their interests are. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2319 "2024-11-03T00:00:31Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > IF Kamala were to lose [goes outside, turns around 3 times and spits] it would mean: > > Fundraising doesn’t matter > Endorsements don’t matter > Ground game doesn’t matter > Character doesn’t matter No, it’s more that it may mean that sometimes it’s just not enough. Because if Kamala didn’t have better fundraising, endorsements, ground game and character, she’d probably be dead in the water instead of just having a reasonable chance to win. Demagoguery is dangerous because far too often it just works, IF you’ve got the “right” candidate. Just ask [Cleon of Athens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleon) (the ‘first demagogue’). And whatever else you can say about Trump, he’s the “right” demagogue for his basket of ~~deplorables~~ disgruntled at the “right” time. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2320 "2024-11-03T00:10:44Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > No, it’s more that it may mean that sometimes it’s just not enough. Because if Kamala didn’t have better fundraising, endorsements, ground game and character, she’d probably be dead in the water instead of just having a reasonable chance to win. This, exactly. Think about how the Biden campaign was trending, and how he was falling short on at least two of the four of those dimensions. Harris was able to turn around enthusiasm among liberal voters. If Biden doesn’t drop out, there’s a very high probability that signs would be pointing strongly to a major Trump victory next week, even with all of Trump’s strangeness, and his crappy ground game. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2321 "2024-11-03T01:02:53Z")
Harris was supposed to fly to Detroit this evening, but instead her plane went to New York City. She will reportedly make a cameo appearance on SNL tonight. > **[Kamala Harris campaign plane redirected to NYC for surprise SNL cameo](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14034259/kamala-harris-plane-redirected-new-york-city-saturday-night-live.html)** > > Vice President Kamala Harris added a previously unannounced stop in New York City to her schedule for a surprise cameo on Saturday Night Live. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2322 "2024-11-03T01:10:23Z")
Yep, just saw it too. I expected it or something similar for a while. NYT gift link [Harris to appear on SNL 11.2.24](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/02/us/politics/kamala-harris-snl.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XE4.EW4l.cLmvajY4Nq-U&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2323 "2024-11-03T02:04:18Z")
I hope she does well. 😀 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=116)