# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 118
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2364 "2024-11-04T19:03:55Z")
Damn. Do I identify with _that_ feeling. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2365 "2024-11-04T19:08:47Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “nauseous optimism”. Perfect way to put it! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2366 "2024-11-04T19:34:58Z")
Yeah. That’s been kind of a thing: > **[Kamala Harris has reason for "nauseous optimism": Political analyst](https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-early-voting-women-2024-election-ron-brownstein-1979074)** > > Early voting data is encouraging Democrats who see women as crucial to propelling Harris to the White House. > **[My feeling about this presidential election? Nauseous optimism | Robert Reich](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/13/presidential-election-us-global-consequences-optimism)** > > The outcome of this fight will set the course for the US and the world for decades – and it is winnable ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2367 "2024-11-04T23:25:30Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > That’s been kind of a thing: I suspect it’s because it rhymes with “cautious optimism”. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2368 "2024-11-05T00:19:18Z")
Well if the “rule” that the Washington football team winning their last home game prior to the election means the incumbent party wins, then maybe there should be optimism? Thought given that the win was the result of a last minute “hail mary” pass, it might mean having to wait on tenterhooks until it actually happens. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2369 "2024-11-05T02:44:01Z")
Anyone see the Philly guy, I think the Attorney General, who said "F around and find out,"to people who would cause problems at the polls? I like that guy! Grr, trying to link. Can’t do it on my phone. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2370 "2024-11-05T02:54:48Z")
No problem. Here you go: > **['F around and find out': Philly DA says city set to handle Election Day concerns](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/f-around-and-find-out-philly-da-election-day-concerns/4017882/)** > > In activating his office's Election Task Force, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner warned any bad actors on Election Day 'can have fun in your jail cell.' ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2371 "2024-11-05T03:10:24Z")
That is awesome. And sooooo Philly. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2372 "2024-11-05T03:19:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Considering the dozens of flubs and weirdness from Trump, if she loses this will be a strong case that campaigns don’t really matter. I don’t see any way Kamala loses, but if she does lose, it doesn’t mean campaigns don’t matter. She would have still lost by a lesser margin than if she’d run a bad campaign, and her effect might have still netted the D’s a couple more Senate seats or House seats than had she run badly. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2373 "2024-11-05T03:46:28Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I don’t see any way Kamala loses, but if she does lose, it doesn’t mean campaigns don’t matter. If she wins Iowa, and yet loses a national election in which Trump was outspent, it will sure look like Democratic Party campaigning does not work. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2374 "2024-11-05T07:18:10Z")
I still wonder why— despite trying to look professional, sane, educated, etc. — the Dem campaign’s first ad (no matter WHOM it was at the time) did not start off with— “WHY VOTE FOR THIS DIPSHIT, this guy who has never been a success in any forum— casinos, football, real estate wannabe— as other than a bullshit ASSHOLE??” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2375 "2024-11-05T07:18:22Z")
I reject this mindset that assigns blame to the Democrats if the Republicans win. It treats the right as if they have no agency at all. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2376 "2024-11-05T08:14:59Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > “WHY VOTE FOR THIS DIPSHIT, this guy who has never been a success in any forum— casinos, football, real estate wannabe— as other than a bullshit ASSHOLE??” Because however much that would have made you happy, many people are turned off by cursing/vulgarity. Not me, mind you - I’m perfectly happy referring to Trump as a feculent boil on the asshole of society. But many, MANY people, even sane ones, hate that kind of approach. Especially some of our older, more demographically reliable voters. You don’t want to alienate pearl-clutchers with super-aggressive rhetoric involving profanity, because pearl-clutchers vote. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2377 "2024-11-05T08:29:27Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > You don’t want to alienate pearl-clutchers Fuck 'em. They are a rapidly shrinking disingenuous minority. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2378 "2024-11-05T08:34:22Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Fuck 'em. They are a rapidly shrinking disingenuous minority. A vote is a vote. I don’t think there is any research indicating that going full-on scatological will gain you votes. It’s just a vent for people’s frustrations who want to scream into the void about what a shitty candidate Trump is. But it gains you nothing (far as I can tell) and loses you something. It’s just shooting yourself in the foot over something that is pretty trivial. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2379 "2024-11-05T08:35:18Z")
He should have just said “Fool” not F. Sounds smoother and everyone knows what he meant. Also Kamala if she wins to immediately start thinking about the next election and working with the Democratic Party to shore up weak spots. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2380 "2024-11-05T08:43:04Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > I don’t think there is any research indicating that going full-on scatological will gain you votes. I don’t think the point is to be shouty and insulting, the point is to finally say the obvious truth instead of circling around it with overly nice euphemisms. Absolute chaotic disaster is looming and the Dems are still pussyfooting around it like it’s situation-normal. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2381 "2024-11-05T11:38:15Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I still wonder why— despite trying to look professional, sane, educated, etc. — the Dem campaign’s first ad (no matter WHOM it was at the time) did not start off with— “WHY VOTE FOR THIS DIPSHIT, this guy who has never been a success in any forum— casinos, football, real estate wannabe— as other than a bullshit ASSHOLE??” You mean the guy that successfully won the 2016 presidential election? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2382 "2024-11-05T12:45:49Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He should have just said “Fool” not F. Sounds smoother and everyone knows what he meant. No! His verbiage was perfect for Philly. We understand why a DA can’t say “fuck” at a presser, but we have no need for him to bowdlerize beyond using the initial, and his tone—which implied a strong desire to use the actual phrase—was just right as well. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2383 "2024-11-05T13:01:38Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Because however much that would have made you happy, many people are turned off by cursing/vulgarity. But only when Democrats curse. Trump has been swearing a blue streak for months, and these selfsame pearl-clutchers dismiss it as locker room talk by a “salty sailor” who “tells it like it is”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=117) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=119)