# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2444 "2024-11-10T21:21:22Z")

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I think @Sherrerd meant the operatives skipped The Dope this year. I know I didn’t see any obvious Russian jack asses this time around.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2445 "2024-11-10T21:24:34Z")

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Okay, if that was the point. Sure.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2446 "2024-11-10T21:24:47Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I did see some pushing “both sides are just as bad”.

Yeah, you’re right, I did see some of that, too. And also a lot of ‘I’m in a [red or blue] state so my vote doesn’t matter’ (of course it does matter to the popular vote, which can operate as a mandate or else as an argument against the Electoral College).

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > Maybe the operatives skipped us this year.
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> Nope.

By “us” I meant the Dope. [eta: ninja’d]

But, yes: lots of work by overseas adversaries to affect the outcome. I remember particularly the staged ‘proof of fraud’ showing a person with a VERY black hand tearing up ballots showing votes for Trump.

I wonder if Trump will outlaw such efforts by agencies (to identify and publicize foreign propaganda schemes)?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2447 "2024-11-10T21:26:33Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> By “us” I meant the Dope.

Then I apologize for that.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2448 "2024-11-10T21:27:10Z")

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No worries. All on the same side, here.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2449 "2024-11-10T23:16:46Z")

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> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> They are going to take care of women.

Which doesn’t sound ominous at all. And progress was made on abortion rights, so people did care, they just didn’t tie it to her.

> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> They would rather vore for Biden.

There’s a campaign slogan that would certainly be memorable. Not to mention that allegedly a lot of people didn’t know Biden had dropped out.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2450 "2024-11-11T18:43:06Z")

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I’ve never vored for anyone.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2451 "2024-11-11T19:00:13Z")

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I still have the “Vore for Al Gore” sticker on my Prius.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2452 "2024-11-11T21:17:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ve never vored for anyone.

Yeah, the idea that we must love and adore a candidate is just another piece of anti-democracy, anti-voting propaganda. (Not that it’s not okay to love and adore a candidate; for those so-inclined: love away.)

We vote to get as close as possible to what we want. And what some of us may happen to want, is to shut out of power those who hate the rule of law and want to subvert it.

That’s a perfectly good reason for voting.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2453 "2024-11-11T21:29:56Z")

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Oh, I’ve _voted_ for lots of people. I’ve just never _vored_ for anyone.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2454 "2024-11-11T21:42:08Z")

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On an internet full of weird fetishes, vore is up there.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2455 "2024-11-11T22:02:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Oh, I’ve _voted_ for lots of people. I’ve just never _vored_ for anyone.

Heh. And here I was thinking I knew exactly what point you were making.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2456 "2024-11-13T15:17:33Z")

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> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> Trump goes on Joe Rogan and instantly capture all young male voters. They are going to take care of women.

In the Mafia sense of “take care of”.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2457 "2024-11-13T17:09:22Z")

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In the sense of deciding for them what’s good for them then doing it to them whether they like it or not. Some bits of which some women might think are nice, but most of which most of them won’t. Of course since they’re “just women”, their opinions won’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2458 "2024-11-13T17:23:19Z")

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“Your body, my choice.” 🤮

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2459 "2024-11-13T20:45:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> In the Mafia sense of “take care of”.

You know, take her out. Show her a good time.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2460 "2024-11-13T20:57:22Z")

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On a related note to that, I have never even entertained the idea of taking a buddy’s wife to a movie. Any significant other I’ve had would have considered that a violation of relationship norms, akin to cheating on them. And I’m sure most of my married friends would have had a similar thought.

/hijack

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2461 "2024-11-13T21:33:12Z")

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Eh, redacted. Too much of a hijack.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2462 "2024-11-27T16:51:33Z")

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Ugh ugh ugh. Interesting but depressing. From CNN, [seven charts and maps show where Harris underperformed and lost the election.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/politics/election-voters-harris-what-matters-dg/index.html)

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/2463 "2024-12-02T10:43:35Z")

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I wonder if the DNC has ever sent releases after they’ve lost presidential primaries where they’ve specified which tactics worked and which did not. I Yet I suppose they would only get that type of info by surveying the population - I know the cost would be prohibitive.

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