# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/381 "2024-08-08T21:46:55Z")
The Teamsters have always been the one big union to support the GOP. Don’t ask me why. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/382 "2024-08-08T21:50:17Z")
FWIW I get not wanting to vote for what you consider the lesser of evils. That said I think those who actually care about the issue will end up voting for the option that is even just less bad from their perspective when the time comes. The point of the cite though was that just calling for a ceasefire was enough to win them back in that poll. Something Harris has done. And the actual _worst_ case numbers if they actually stayed home at disgust with Biden inaction levels with zero improvement. It seems doubtful to me that shutting down chanting against you at your rally is going to be the item that makes that go from zero to the full number. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/383 "2024-08-08T21:52:39Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > The Teamsters have always been the one big union to support the GOP. Don’t ask me why. These days it kind of goes like this: Dems want electric vehicles. Electric vehicles are precursors to self driving vehicles. Self driving vehicles equals no Teamsters. Also, mostly men who spend a lot of time listening to talk radio. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/384 "2024-08-08T23:36:25Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > FWIW I get not wanting to vote for what you consider the lesser of evils. That said I think those who actually care about the issue will end up voting for the option that is even just less bad from their perspective when the time comes. Some definitely will. But there are a lot who will vote for the worse one with the belief (hope) it will send a message and force a reckoning that leads to better outcomes in the future.\* In my bubble of progressives, it’s almost exclusively the under 30s who feel this way, Arab or not. The admittedly small number of older Arabs I know will vote for the lesser of the evils. \* I don’t want to debate if this belief is valid or realistic here. That’s a topic for a different thread. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/385 "2024-08-09T00:42:44Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > with the belief (hope) it will send a message and force a reckoning that leads to better outcomes in the future.\* I get that. That talk happens most cycles. And my impression is that the group that makes that talk end up behaving the same way each time: if they are voters they still vote; if they are not voters they use that as their reason to not vote that time. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/386 "2024-08-09T11:36:50Z")
Harris has picked up an endorsement from the League of United Latin American Citizens. Apparently they’re not in the habit of endorsing candidates. > **[LULAC endorses Harris-Walz ticket, first endorsement for oldest Latino civil...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/lulac-endorses-harris-walz-historic-first-rcna165848)** > > The former president of the 95-year-old organization, who heads LULAC’S new political arm, said too much was at stake for Latinos under another Trump presidency. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/387 "2024-08-09T18:57:02Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > But there are a lot who will vote for the worse one with the belief (hope) it will send a message and force a reckoning that leads to better outcomes in the future.\* There will be no such future if trump wins. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/388 "2024-08-09T19:54:40Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > > [@hajario](#): > > > > Nate Silver’s updated forecast was released this morning and for the first time Trump is behind! > > > > Harris: 50.5 > > Trump: 48.8 > > Today it is > > Harris: 53.0 > Trump: 46.4 > > Harris’s has a 67.7% chance of winning the popular vote according to the model. The model now shows Harris winning 53.8% of the model runs. The increase is because NV polls got a lot more blue. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/389 "2024-08-09T22:16:48Z")
This ad is running locally: [Fixing the Border is Tough. So is Kamala Harris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2F9qGxTKcU) Progressives may not like it, but it tells me her team is serious about winning an election (rather than just pleasing those already committed to voting for her). The strategy of the ad is consistent with this: [What’s better than calling Trump weird?](https://www.slowboring.com/p/whats-better-than-calling-trump-weird) > [@](#): > > Voters have been hearing about Donald Trump for almost ten years now. If they’re willing to vote for him based on that near-decade of experience, a few ads or a new quip are unlikely to change their minds about him. In our survey, we found that every attempt at attacking Trump — from overturning _Roe_ to his threat to democracy and calling him “weird” — didn’t persuade voters to support Harris. > > Instead of attacking Trump, Democrats should talk about _Harris_. The bad news for Democrats is that, to the extent voters do know Harris, they think she is [very liberal](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-harris-trump-cbs-news/) and that her policies [would not make them better off financially](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-harris-trump-cbs-news/). The good news is that voters have heard much less about Harris than Trump . . . ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/390 "2024-08-09T23:17:10Z")
After reading the second link in my last post more carefully, I have to correct my statement that “the strategy of the ad is consistent” with that link. While the link generally supports running ads defining Harris as mainstream, it also can be interpreted as saying Harris should NOT run ads regarding immigration. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/391 "2024-08-10T03:00:49Z")
Harris had Palestinian protestors again today, and addressed them more directly [this time](https://out.reddit.com/t3_1eohag6?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Famp-video%2Fmmvo216869445807&token=AQAAfeS2ZnZ8t4V5iXPydB4rTD9z_f3FpgoxjQ7YdcyNAJ9RxBao). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/392 "2024-08-10T03:25:27Z")
Your link didn’t work for me. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/393 "2024-08-10T03:27:03Z")
Nor me. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/394 "2024-08-10T03:30:08Z")
This link should work: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yDSxEus65gM/maxresdefault.jpg "Harris calls for cease-fire, respect for protesters at Arizona rally") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSxEus65gM) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/395 "2024-08-10T03:30:31Z")
Oh, FFS, I didn’t notice. My apologies. [Here](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo216869445807). ETA: Yep, thanks, hajario. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/396 "2024-08-10T14:06:48Z")
Cross tabs of new NYT Sienna poll showing Harris ahead in MI WI and PA. > **[Cross-Tabs: August 2024 Times/Siena Poll of Registered Voters in Michigan,...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/10/us/elections/times-siena-poll-registered-voter-crosstabs.html?unlocked_article_code=1.B04.tQaX.wL1xk_xd-1rf&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)** > > Results of New York Times/Siena College polls of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin conducted among 1,973 registered voters from Aug. 5 to 9, 2024. With RFK in Harris is up by 1 in MI l, 2 in PA, 7 in WI. Main article reports the two way numbers only: > [@](#): > > Ms. Harris is ahead of Mr. Trump by four percentage points in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, 50 percent to 46 percent among [likely voters in each state](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/08/10/us/elections/times-siena-poll-likely-electorate-crosstabs.html). The surveys were conducted from Aug. 5 to 9. Throw into the stew but nice to have new swing state data. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/397 "2024-08-10T14:11:28Z")
Great to finally have some fresh state polls. Even better that the news is good. Hopefully she can increase those leads and add more states. In Arizona, Trump is only up by 1 in the latest poll. > **[PollingPlus Exclusive: Top Two Presidential Cycle Pollsters Towery and Cahaly...](https://pollingplus.com/news/pollingplus-exclusive-top-two-presidential-cycle-pollsters-towery-and-cahaly-release-battleground-polls/)** > > The co-hosts of Polling Plus Robert Cahaly of Trafalgar Group and Matt Towery of InsiderAdvantage have teamed up to poll six swing state battlegrounds this week. All surveys were conducted August 6-8. The two polling firms were ranked among the most... ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/398 "2024-08-10T14:19:35Z")
Those polls are encouraging as Harris seems to be able to push for support in many states. I don’t know about polling to share anything but am so thrilled that things are moving for her! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/399 "2024-08-10T14:55:04Z")
In the For What It’s Worth department, Harris is now a slight betting favorite to win the election, according to the online sites that accept wagering on politics. Betting on politics, of course, isn’t permitted at US-based sportsbooks. [Kamala Harris election betting favorite over Donald Trump for 1st time | Betting | Sports (reviewjournal.com)](https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/betting/donald-trump-no-longer-betting-favorite-to-win-election-3121198/?utm_campaign=widget&utm_medium=latest&utm_source=staff_todd-dewey&utm_term=Donald%20Trump%20no%20longer%20betting%20favorite%20to%20win%20election) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/400 "2024-08-10T21:17:57Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > This link should work That was beautifully done. A call for respecting multiple opinions; and a call for a ceasefire – combined with a call for release of all the hostages, as one deal. And “now is the time” – with an implication that months ago maybe wasn’t the time. And then the pivot to, in effect, ‘shut up so we can talk about something else.’ If the October (or late August or September) surprise turns out to be that the Biden administration does manage to help pull off a ceasefire for at least long enough to last till after election day – we might get that landslide after all. Plus which, a whole shitload of lives might be saved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=21)