# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/401 "2024-08-11T01:37:22Z")
While there are Jewish and Arab voters who care a great deal about the war in Gaza, my gut feeling is it’s not a major issue for most American voters. Both the Jews and the Arabs vote, and the issue could certainly influence the election results. But i just don’t think enough voters care for it to make or break a “landslide”. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/402 "2024-08-11T02:53:59Z")
Another swing state poll, Nevada, with increasingly significant movement since Harris became the nominee: > **[New Nevada poll sees Harris with biggest lead over Trump yet - The Nevada...](https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/new-nevada-poll-sees-harris-with-biggest-lead-over-trump-yet)** > > A new poll of likely Nevada voters found Vice President Kamala Harris with a nearly 6 percentage point lead over former President Donald Trump — the largest lead for a Democrat in any presidential poll of Nevadans this cycle. Biden had been stuck behind there and now Harris is up by almost 6 in this poll. As always duly noted it is just one poll but the other recent poll, pretty much right after Harris became the nominee in late July, the Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll, had her with a two point lead. So not a crazy outlier. More like a trend. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/403 "2024-08-11T04:09:31Z")
I watched Harris’ speech in Las Vegas tonight and I noticed she is also promising to stop taxing tips. Good to see that she is not afraid of any particular idea just because Trump happened to blurt it out first. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/404 "2024-08-11T05:16:18Z")
If she really wants to one-up him she could call for abolishing the minimum wage exemption for tipped employees. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/405 "2024-08-11T06:24:46Z")
She mentioned raising the minimum wage at the same time. I assume this is something where servers get paid a lower minimum wage than everybody else because they theoretically make up the difference with tips? There was something like that here in BC that a previous government put in and the current government was happy to get rid of. Edit: found a link: > **[Harris says she supports eliminating taxes on tips, like Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-says-she-supports-eliminating-021440968.html)** > > LAS VEGAS (Reuters) -U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris told supporters in Nevada on Saturday she supported eliminating taxes on tips, taking a similar position to her rival Donald Trump in an effort to win over service workers, an important... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/406 "2024-08-11T07:08:22Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I assume this is something where servers get paid a lower minimum wage than everybody else because they theoretically make up the difference with tips? There was something like that here in BC that a previous government put in and the current government was happy to get rid of. Under federal minimum wage law, tipped employees like waiters can be paid as little as $2.13/hour as long as what they make in tips adds up to federal minimum wage ($7.25). It’s not done everywhere - in WA, for example, tipped employees get the same minimum wage ($16.28) as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/407 "2024-08-11T13:32:46Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I watched Harris’ speech in Las Vegas tonight and I noticed she is also promising to stop taxing tips. Good to see that she is not afraid of any particular idea just because Trump happened to blurt it out first. It’s a dumb, pandering idea, but that’s what you’ve got to do to get elected sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/408 "2024-08-11T13:50:57Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > It’s a dumb, pandering idea > **Off-topic hot topic** > > Whats dumb is that we even have tipping in this modern age, other countries function just fine without it. And being able to accept the idea even though it came from a MAGA republican just shows that she is open minded to ideas and willing to work with the other side. This is a win-win for her, it would dumb to let the republicans own this idea. Just watch Trump cry about this was his idea. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/409 "2024-08-11T13:54:20Z")
**Moderating** : No debates on tipping in the thread. I’m hiding your first line. We have no shortage of threads debating tipping or condemning the practice. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/410 "2024-08-11T14:28:58Z")
Don’t get me wrong, whatever I may think of the substance of the proposal, I’m a fan of a good political pander. The biggest political pander of the 2020 election was Joe Biden’s promise to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court, and it’s the reason why he’s President today. To be successful, a pander must be very important to a specific subsection of the electorate but not alienating to the rest of the electorate. It’s also important to deploy the pander sparingly, lest one get a reputation for being a panderer and interest groups begin to doubt the candidate’s commitment to their specific pander. They’ll be consequences to be dealt with if she’s elected, but getting elected is the foremost thing. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/411 "2024-08-11T16:41:08Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > With RFK in Harris is up by 1 in MI l, 2 in PA, 7 in WI. Correction. That was registered voters. For likely voters it is - up MI 5 PA 2 WI 6 Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/412 "2024-08-11T16:54:07Z")
Those are nice numbers. I was rooting for Harris way back in the last primaries, and was disappointed when she dropped out. She would be a good leader, especially compared to the orange shitgibbon. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/413 "2024-08-11T17:19:55Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Those are nice numbers. I was rooting for Harris way back in the last primaries, and was disappointed when she dropped out. She would be a good leader, especially compared to the orange shitgibbon I probably wouldn’t pick her out of a large lineup of Democratic candidates, but it obviously doesn’t matter. I’d prefer Pete Buttgieg, Cory Brooker, and probably a few others. I also prefer a younger Biden, who I really think is the best politician out there. I get he is getting old, but I think Lindsay Graham was right to say, “God never created a better man than Joe Biden.” OK, that’s exaggerating, but he is a great guy. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/414 "2024-08-11T17:45:59Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Biffster](#): > > > > Those are nice numbers. I was rooting for Harris way back in the last primaries, and was disappointed when she dropped out. She would be a good leader, especially compared to the orange shitgibbon > > I probably wouldn’t pick her out of a large lineup of Democratic candidates, but it obviously doesn’t matter. I’d prefer Pete Buttgieg, Cory Brooker, and probably a few others. I did. She was one of my favorites when they all ran against each other. If she hadn’t dropped out by the time it got to my state, there’s a decent chance I would have voted for her. I certainly liked her more than Biden. (In hindsight, I underestimated Biden.) I’m quite happy to see her running. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/415 "2024-08-11T18:05:48Z")
Cool, I’m cheering her on obviously. And voting for her first day our ballot comes to us. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/416 "2024-08-11T18:17:48Z")
Making fun of non-European names was probably considered a real zinger in the reform school that that fucking Fred shipped him off to. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/417 "2024-08-12T01:39:21Z")
In his interview today, President Biden said that he planned to campaign for Harris. He intends to focus on Pennsylvania. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-campaign-harris-battleground-state-pennsylvania-2024-08-11/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-campaign-harris-battleground-state-pennsylvania-2024-08-11/) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/418 "2024-08-12T11:04:10Z")
I wish he wouldn’t. He needs to save his energy for Presidentin’. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/419 "2024-08-12T11:42:55Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > While there are Jewish and Arab voters who care a great deal about the war in Gaza, my gut feeling is it’s not a major issue for most American voters. Both the Jews and the Arabs vote, and the issue could certainly influence the election results. But i just don’t think enough voters care for it to make or break a “landslide”. I think a US-brokered cease fire really would be a big deal. First, I think that most of both American Jews and Muslims want it. Second, while it’s not high on most Americans’ lists, I think that’s because most people just take violence in the Middle East for granted, as something that’s going to happen and we can’t do anything about. But if someone does do something about it, well, that’s impressive. Bonus points if Biden can talk up Harris’s role in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/420 "2024-08-12T12:58:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He needs to save his energy for Presidentin’. I’m not sure how much he needs to be “hands on” about, as opposed to letting his surrogates run out the clock, hopefully avoiding any huge negative developments and aiming at some favorable October surprise bump (a la Isr/Pal ceasefire). And I’d imagine much of that could be done in between campaign visits via phone calls. What exactly - in terms of Presidentin’ - do you believe should keep him off the campaign trail? My concern is, how does his age/apparent frailty sell? I could imagine him presenting a message of “Look what we accomplished, after the challenges of Chump. I responsibly decided to pass the torch to a younger generation.” But I could imagine him presenting an unfavorable image, reminding folk that he oughtn’t have lt it get to the point where he had to pull out… Interesting PR challenge. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=22)