# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/547 "2024-08-17T02:59:56Z")
Party’s over, guys. Kamala’s been caught red-handed… from Dorito dust. > ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/548 "2024-08-17T10:46:37Z")
For debate prep, Harris is calling up a Trump stand-in (there’s a job title) I hope they prep her pretty well for his fire house of BS. Trump is bringing in….Tulsi Gabbard? > **[Tulsi Gabbard and a seasoned Trump impersonator: How Trump and Harris are...](https://kvia.com/your-voice-your-vote/politics/cnn-us-politics/2024/08/16/tulsi-gabbard-and-a-seasoned-trump-impersonator-how-trump-and-harris-are-preparing-for-their-first-head-to-head-debate/?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral)** > > By Steve Contorno, Jeff Zeleny, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Kristen Holmes, CNN (CNN) — The first presidential debate of 2024 upended the race for the White House, effectively terminated the reelection aspirations of President Joe Biden and... ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/549 "2024-08-17T11:16:11Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > …they’re both so intelligent, well-spoken… Aaargh - don’t say that! Such attributes turned a good portion of the country against Obama! Not that I’d want to have a beer w/ Chump… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/550 "2024-08-17T12:26:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > For debate prep, Harris is calling up a Trump stand-in (there’s a job title) I hope they prep her pretty well for his fire house of BS. Anyone seen @Smapti lately? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/551 "2024-08-17T13:56:53Z")
Well this is a lot of seats to fill. An acceptance speech watch party at Soldier Field. I wonder how turnout will be. > **[Watch party for Kamala Harris' DNC nomination acceptance planned at Soldier...](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2024-democratic-national-convention/2024/08/15/watch-party-kamala-harris-democratic-national-convention-acceptance-speech-soldier-field)** > > For those who can't get into the United Center to watch Harris accept the Democratic nomination, non-profit GoChiLife is planning a watch party at Chicago's football stadium. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/552 "2024-08-17T14:16:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I wonder how turnout will be. I doubt they would have secured that large a venue if they weren’t confident about filling it. The stadium is full at about 62,000. Far lower than most NFL stadiums. And if she has the reach of Obama in 2008 (I think she does), well… He got 100,000 a few times > **[St. Louis rally largest Obama crowd in U.S.](https://www.mprnews.org/story/2008/10/18/st-louis-rally-largest-obama-crowd-in-us)** > > Barack Obama's rally in St. Louis on Saturday drew an estimated 100,000 people, confirmed by his campaign to be the > largest crowd for an Obama event in the U.S. > **[Tired Obama addresses huge Virginia crowd at final campaign rally](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/04/uselections2008-barackobama)** > > Festival atmosphere as estimated 100,000 supporters in one-time Republican stronghold struggle to suppress optimism > **[More than 75,000 pack stadium to hear Obama - CNN.com](https://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/28/invesco.color/index.html)** > > Sen. Barack Obama's acceptance of the Democratic Party's presidential nomination may be historic in many ways. One of them is the size of the audience at Invesco Field. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/553 "2024-08-17T14:23:12Z")
For concerts and stuff they also have seating on the field. Either way, with a full house at the United Center, the addition of participants at the watch party should translate into a crowd size fit to boil Trump’s soulless blood. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/554 "2024-08-17T14:30:57Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Not that I’d want to have a beer w/ Chump… Just take one look at Tim Walz. The guy looks like he was born wearing a “Grill Master” apron and holding a Miller Light (I think that’s what they drink up there) That’s been one of the things they’ve had a harder time dealing with. Their side values “traditional” (we know what the codewords really mean) appearance, and the guy looks exactly like what he really is - a Midwesterner who likes football and his bland Midwestern foods. Who also happens to be well spoken, intelligent, and espouses the family and community values they only pretend to have. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/555 "2024-08-17T16:17:52Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > crowd size fit to boil Trump’s soulless blood. He’ll just claim the crowd was AI generated, or crisis actors, or some new lie. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/556 "2024-08-17T16:21:58Z")
Of course. 🙂 But it keeps him talking about the _important_ things, ya know? While Kamala addresses the actual concerns of voters. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/557 "2024-08-17T16:37:24Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Just take one look at Tim Walz. The guy looks like he was born wearing a “Grill Master” apron and holding a Miller Light (I think that’s what they drink up there) Even better, he looks like he was born holding a Diet Coke. A clean cut dad, who genuinely has more fun playing catch with the cousins out in the yard than standing around with the menfolk, drinking and bloviating. A goofy dad. A safe dad. A dad who checks your tires because he worries, and tells you when you need new ones. (I am aware of the DUI. I’m talking about his current image) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/558 "2024-08-17T17:22:10Z")
I heard some snippets of Harris speaking on the radio this a.m. I was reminded that she has an unusual (to me) vocal habit of ending her phrases/sentences with descending tones. Kinda the opposite of the “upspeak” common among young women “influencers.” Just the tone she uses always sounds somewhat patronizing to my ear. A minor thing, but just the impression I’ve always gotten. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/559 "2024-08-17T17:35:51Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I was reminded that she has an unusual (to me) vocal habit of ending her phrases/sentences with descending tones. Kinda the opposite of the “upspeak” common among young women “influencers.” Just the tone she uses always sounds somewhat patronizing to my ear. Not having heard this, I’m wondering if the same tone would sound patronizing to you if it were done by a man. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/560 "2024-08-17T17:40:29Z")
I’m pretty sure it would, but lacking a ready example, I can’t say for certain. The same way that men using upspeak sound slike fucking airheads, the same way young women do. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/561 "2024-08-17T17:43:58Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > The same way that men using upspeak sound slike fucking airheads, the same way young women do. Well, if you don’t want her to go up at the end of her sentences, the next most probable way of signaling the end of a sentence is to go down. I suspect it would not sound patronizing to you from a man. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/562 "2024-08-17T17:47:15Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I suspect it would not sound patronizing to you from a man. I suspect you are imputing something to me out of your own need to feel a certain way/push a certain agenda, rather than from any awareness of my mental state. Gee - I can only end phrases going up or down. I cannot maintain a steady tone, vary up and down within the same sentence, end some phrases up and others down… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/563 "2024-08-17T17:48:02Z")
**Moderating** : Please both of you drop this now. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/564 "2024-08-17T21:58:54Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Even better, he looks like he was born holding a Diet Coke. In 2024, Diet Mountain Dew seems to be the beverage preference for VP candidates. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/565 "2024-08-19T13:21:37Z")
The week starts with excellent polling news: [CBS News/YouGov poll](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-poll-kamala-harris-policies-trump-democratic-convention-2024/) has Harris up nationally by 2% or 3%. [Focaldata](https://www.semafor.com/article/08/18/2024/harris-leads-trump-in-five-of-seven-battlegrounds-poll) has Harris up +6 in **Nevada**! **Penn is +1%** **Michigan +7%** Georgia is down 4% Arizona is down 1% **North Carolina is +1%** **Wisconsin +6%** ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/566 "2024-08-19T13:48:07Z")
Thanks for posting this…but not excellent, sorry. It confirms essentially-must-win PA as a total tossup. And, it confirms that we can’t count on Georgia at all. All it does is (if confirmed by upcoming polls) add Nevada to the mix of states (the others being North Carolina and Arizona) that could allow Kamala to win _if_ she loses PA. Until now, it looked like it would HAVE to be NC _and_ AZ. Now, it’s looking possible that any two out of three (adding NV) would do the trick (feel free to check my math on that). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=29)