# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

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**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/767 "2024-08-28T19:58:57Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Voters still tell pollsters that they trust Trump more on “the border” and immigration:
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> [Harris cuts Trump’s advantages on economy, immigration](https://wapo.st/3AGZxxX)

Do you have a cite others can read?

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> The Dem convention was just about perfect, and yet it moved too few voters into the Harris/Walz camp.

The Democratic Convention for the past few decades has always made the Republicans look like amateurs. How good it was does not seem to matter – in fact, looking really good may make voters feel like the Democrats are _too_ glitzy.

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> | Column 1 | Column 2 |
> | --- | --- |
> | Popular vote | Harris Electoral win probability |
> | R +0 to +1 | 3.10% |
> | D +0 to +1 | 11.40% |
> | D +1 to +2 | 34.90% |
> | D +2 to +3 | 65.00% |
> | D +3 to +4 | 87.80% |
> | D +4 to +5 | 96.60% |
> | D +5 to +6 | 99.20% |
> | D +6 to +7 | 99.80% |

Just to bring in Nate Silver’s latest update :

“_ **Last update: 4:30 p.m., Wednesday, August 28** :_ Maybe a little bit of an RFK effect after all? Kamala Harris’s lead peaked at 4.3 points in our national average the day Kennedy dropped out — and now it’s down to 3.5 points in the now RFK-less version of our model. That’s not bad, but with the convention bounce adjustment the model is applying, the November forecast is about as close to 50/50 as it gets.”

> **[Silver Bulletin 2024 presidential election forecast](https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model)**
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> All the numbers for Trump vs. Harris.

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Is there any reason to trust any poll at all at this point? I was reading an article - I think in The Atlantic - that the polls were worse in 2020 than they were in 2016. One example was that they expected Biden to win Wisconsin by 10% and he only won by 1%. Apparently there is a huge contingent of silent Trump voters, and they throw a monkey wrench into all polls when he runs. That’s why the mid-term polling has been much more accurate.

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Is there any reason to trust any poll at all at this point?

Trust in terms of showing who will win? No.

Trust that the pollsters are doing the best they ethically can to correct past errors? Yes.

Based on polls, I am sure that the change in the Democratic ticket made Trump less likely to win.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Trust in terms of showing who will win?

Yes, that’s really all that matters, right?

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Re last post, consider this – reasons 5 and 6 are the most relevant for this thread:

> **[Six Reasons Polling Is Valuable in a Representative Democracy](https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/474695/six-reasons-polling-valuable-representative-democracy.aspx)**
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> Knowing what the public is thinking and feeling between elections is an invaluable asset in a representative democracy.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/774 "2024-08-29T00:07:30Z")

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Is anyone else worried about her interview tomorrow? I think her problem is that she gets defensive when challenged and can come off as abrasive. She doesn’t seem to like talking about herself personally. I hope it doesn’t hurt the campaign too much.

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Is anyone else worried about her interview tomorrow?

Not at all. Should I be worried that the Democratic presidential candidate is going to answer questions?  
I _expect_ that the candidate do that. It’s mandatory.

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Is there any reason to trust any poll at all at this point?

They are premature before the debates are conducted, in my opinion.

Plus, if polling is based on likely voters, and this time it’s _Harris_ who is bringing out newly excited voters (unlike 2016, when Trump was the one who inspired typically uninvolved people to vote), than she could be expected to under-perform.

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I’m hearing (take that for what it’s worth) that it’s going to be pre-taped and edited before broadcast. So of course more fodder for the MAGAts who have gone from “she won’t do interviews” to “she needs Walz there, and can’t interview on her own” to now “she can’t do live interviews, she needs it taped and edited”.

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If true, that’s terrible.

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> I’m hearing (take that for what it’s worth) that it’s going to be pre-taped and edited before broadcast.

Looks like I heard correctly.

“The interview with Bash, who serves as CNN’s chief political correspondent, is expected to take place Thursday afternoon at CNN’s Atlanta headquarters as Harris and Walz tour the battleground state, with the interview airing later that evening.”

> **[How to watch Kamala Harris, Tim Walz interview on CNN with NJ's Dana Bash](https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/2024/08/28/watch-kamala-harris-tim-walz-cnn-interview-dana-bash-nj/74980177007/)**
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> CNN anchor Dana Bash, a Bergen County native, will conduct the first in-depth, sit-down interview with Kamala Harris and Tim Walz on Thursday.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I _expect_ that the candidate do that. It’s mandatory.

Really- by whom? And trump never does.

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I am unsure of what it is that you are talking about.

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Who ruled it was mandatory? The NYT?

And trump has not given an interview this election cycle.

Before people bring out dates- an interview is where questions are asked- and they are answered. trump does not do that.

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I don’t give a fuck what Trump does. That guy is an idiot.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@bobot](#):
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> > I _expect_ that the candidate do that. It’s mandatory.
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> Really- by whom? And trump never does.

He mostly arranges interviews with friendly questioners, like Elon Musk, although he did take questions from an ABC News reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists convention (7/31/24). He also had had a few press conferences this year.

If you refuse all mainstream interviews, some voters are properly going to wonder whether you have the ability to do it. So not doing it would be a bad idea.

You could also look at the CNN interview as public debate prep.

As for Harris waiting a few weeks to do it, I don’t think that matters.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Before people bring out dates- an interview is where questions are asked- and they are answered. trump does not do that.

I agree. But only never-Trump types think of it that way.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> …although he did take questions from an ABC News reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists convention (7/31/24).

What a show! Trump “answering questions” is always an insightful event for all involved.

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