# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/867 "2024-08-30T23:06:19Z")
Yes, state fact, move on, don’t get in the mud. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/868 "2024-08-31T11:34:01Z")
Kamala’s campaign has really stepped up its organization in PA, while apparently Trump has not. That’s both encouraging and concerning. > **[Harris campaign opens 50th Pa. office, aims to cut Trump’s advantage in rural...](https://www.pennlive.com/news/2024/08/harris-campaign-opening-50th-pa-office-aiming-to-cut-trumps-advantage-in-rural-red-counties.html)** > > There are more than 370 Harris campaign events scheduled in Pa. this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/869 "2024-08-31T12:05:28Z")
Concerning because there’s room for improvement for the Trump campaign’s organizing in PA…and they’re tied there in polling now? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/870 "2024-08-31T12:12:56Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > New lies- > > [No, Harris Didn’t Say All Democrats Will Be Required To Take COVID-19 Vaccine in Order To Vote | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-harris-democrats-vaccine-vote/) And it’s not even a good lie. Who would believe this? “I know, the best way to win an election is to suppress our _own_ voters! How could that possibly fail?” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/871 "2024-08-31T15:20:10Z")
Signs seen today in front of a house in my town, centered lettering neat but clearly home-made: WE’RE NOT GOING BACK BYE DON! HARRIS and I’M A MILITARY VETERAN NOT A SUCKER OR A LOSER ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/872 "2024-08-31T15:30:42Z")
That and why haven’t they done more yet? Just cocky? Or expecting a fix and not even trying? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/873 "2024-09-01T02:44:19Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > but I hadn’t realized that Indiana is polling that close as well at +4. The two guys who run electoral-vote explained that in a post a month ago. Apparently Indiana doesn’t get polled very much. If you hover over Indiana on their map, you’ll see that the most recent Indiana poll was in April. That was obviously a poll for Biden v Trump. They said that if Indiana does get polled soon, they expect it will be more strongly GOP, given Indiana’s track record. (They had a bit of a conundrum with the switch to Harris. They decided to keep using the old polls that were Biden v Trump, and assume that they’re a reasonably accurate prediction for Harris v Trump, but they’ve acknowledged that they had to make an educated guess on that. There’s never been such a late switch in candidates during the modern polling erra, so they’re just having to do the best they can with the data they’ve got. As soon as they get polls for a state that are Harris v Trump, they’ve been dumping any old Biden v Trump ones for that state.) ETA: on the other hand, the fact that Florida is shown as “barely Republican”, based on more recent polls, is likely more significant than the status of Indiana as “barely Republican”. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/874 "2024-09-01T17:15:04Z")
Silver’s model has Harris now at 44% which is the lowest level since July 31st. Things are not looking great in PA. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/875 "2024-09-01T19:58:55Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Silver’s model has Harris now at 44% which is the lowest level since July 31st. Things are not looking great in PA I’m super concerned. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/876 "2024-09-01T20:39:02Z")
Me too. The only saving grace is there’s still a blunting factor in there for the convention bounce that dissipates over two weeks or so. She’d be doing better if not for that. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/877 "2024-09-01T20:40:24Z")
PA is getting scary. I hope she can make some inroads somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/878 "2024-09-01T20:57:50Z")
Silver’s model has his assumption that there “should” be a convention bounce of a certain size, which even he is not at all confident is a correct assumption at this point. As he states: “The good news for Harris is that if she merely holds her current numbers for a couple more weeks, she’ll begin to track up again in our forecast as the model will become more confident that she’s out of the convention bounce period.” Plus he is waiting with bated breath on more post DNC PA polling. Bottom line is it remains a toss up but the EC advantage based on the difference between PA as likely tipping point and national numbers seems to be under 3 right now, maybe closer to 2. The lower the better but it could be worse. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/879 "2024-09-01T21:57:48Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Silver’s model has Harris now at 44% which is the lowest level since July 31st. Things are not looking great in PA. She was at 52% nationally on Silver Bulletin two days ago. Are you saying 44% for Pennsylvania, or 44% nationally? Usually, Nate Silver gives the national percentage in front of the paywall, but I don’t see a national 44% figure there right now. Is a cite for 44% behind the paywall? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/880 "2024-09-01T22:02:19Z")
I’m a subscriber and it’s 44.0% for the electoral college. She was at 52.6% on August 26th and it’s steadily dropped. He has Trump with a 55% chance of winning PA. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/881 "2024-09-02T18:21:50Z")
> It seems she is pro union, which is good but why is she talking with this weird inflection here? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/882 "2024-09-02T18:29:08Z")
Have you got a link to the speech which isn’t on Xitter? A lot of the time I can’t see anything there but a sign in box; and in any case I’d rather not give them the hits. And I don’t trust a Xitter post not to be altered; especially from somebody calling themselves End Wokeness. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/883 "2024-09-02T18:30:13Z")
Spreading something from “End Wokeness” is pretty questionable to start with. But isn’t that just a Union Rally/Church Rally cadence? It isn’t an urban accent. That is just some bullshit from a bullshit artist. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/884 "2024-09-02T18:32:37Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Spreading something from “End Wokeness” is pretty questionable to start with. She knows what she’s doing. And this place is enabling it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/885 "2024-09-02T18:33:49Z")
I’ll flag it for review by the other P&E moderators. But watch out for posts like that, bordering on attacking the poster and not the post. **Moderating:** ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/886 "2024-09-02T18:49:50Z")
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