# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/81 "2024-07-24T20:10:24Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > huge fundraising concert for Harris with both T Swift and Beyoncé. While this would be great, it’s only a rumor. And a false one, according to Snopes. [Taylor Swift and Beyoncé Hosting Joint Concert in Support of Kamala Harris? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/swift-beyonce-joint-concert-for-kamala-harris/) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/82 "2024-07-24T21:21:01Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Musk seems to be backing down on his pledge to give $45 million a month to Trump. Wanted to add a cite for this. It was easy to find, as the major news outlets have picked it up. > **[Elon Musk now denies he's donating $45 million a month to help Trump](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/elon-musk-trump-donation-45-million-pac-rcna163404)** > > The acerbic tech billionaire said he is donating at a "much lower level" to a pro-Trump PAC — without going into specifics. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/83 "2024-07-24T22:02:39Z")
A former Haley group is now supporting Harris. It’s not a big deal, but it pleases me. > **[Harris campaign welcomes anti-Trump Republicans after Haley pushes back on group](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4791170-kamala-harris-campaign-nikki-haley/amp/)** > > Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign is welcoming anti-Trump Republican voters after former Republican candidate Nikki Haley’s presidential campaign pushed back against a “Hale… ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/84 "2024-07-24T22:23:38Z")
There’s also Swifties For Harris (MeidasTouch). Linking in the middle but the whole thing is about the right losing their minds over Taylor. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUlU75nsvL0&t=535s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUlU75nsvL0&t=535s) ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/85 "2024-07-24T22:35:38Z")
Swifties also hate Vance since Tay is an unapologetic childless cat lady. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/86 "2024-07-25T00:34:47Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Wanted to add a cite for this. It was easy to find, as the major news outlets have picked it up. > > [Elon Musk denies pro-Trump PAC donations amount to $45 million a month](https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/elon-musk-trump-donation-45-million-pac-rcna163404) Kinda weird- donate to the party that hates and despises your products, and even wants to get rid of them. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/87 "2024-07-25T00:42:10Z")
Jamie Raskin referred to vance as shilbilly. Man, I wish I’d thought of that. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/88 "2024-07-25T12:40:59Z")
I think this is the best thread to share this article and to invite discussion on it’s implications: the racial income gap is shrinking, a good thing, except that part of the shrinking gap is poor whites dropping down … > **[Who Can Achieve the American Dream? Race Matters Less Than It Used To.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/25/us/race-wealth-gap-economy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.900.WcYH.tKw_UKP2gUg6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)** > > New research shows that the Black-white opportunity gap closed by about 30 percent for people born poor. It's also harder for poor whites to climb into the middle class. Gift link. Better to have the gap shrink by all boats rising, the lowest rising more. I’m of the belief that we are more stung by loss than pleased by gains of the same amounts. MAGAism taps into that. I think a Harris campaign needs to find a way to acknowledge it and be seen as an ally in addressing it, the way Bill Clinton managed with his “I feel your pain.” bits. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/89 "2024-07-25T14:10:03Z")
Did anyone else see this open letter from the Harris campaign about their strategy? (pdf file) [https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000190-e21e-d944-a1de-e67f85be0000](https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000190-e21e-d944-a1de-e67f85be0000) Some useful quotes: > **First, Vice President Harris has well-documented support from the Biden-Harris coalition** of voters that delivered victory in 2020. She has significant advantages with key parts of the Democratic base: Black voters, Latino voters, AANHPI voters, women, and young voters. > **Second, the Vice President is also well-positioned to expand support from 2020,** drawing the support of voters who have moved towards Democrats since the 2020 election. > … > Her net favorability is 19 points higher than Trump’s among white, college-educated voters, and 18 points higher than Trump’s among voters over 65. > **Third, in a highly polarized electoral environment, this shift in the race opens up additional persuadable voters** who our campaign can work to win the support of. > … > About 7% of voters remain undecided in this race, and these voters are disproportionately Black, Latino, and under 30. > We continue to focus on the Blue Wall states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania — and the Sun Belt states of North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada, where the Vice President’s advantages with young voters, Black voters, and Latino voters will > be important to our multiple pathways to 270 electoral votes. > **Bottom line:** This campaign will be close, it will be hard fought, but Vice President Harris is in a position of strength – and she’s going to win. (all emphases from original) ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/90 "2024-07-25T14:30:19Z")
Happy to say that all of that seems perfectly realistic and well-founded to me! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/91 "2024-07-25T14:34:41Z")
I mean, obviously it’s a rosy picture from focusing only on the good news and not on any bad signs. Campaigns always say they’re doing well. But I think there is room for optimism. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/92 "2024-07-25T15:28:29Z")
They notably are not committing to either a Blue Wall or a Sun Belt strategy, but, taken at face value, closer to the Obama spread the field multiple pathways possible approach. Something only possible to attempt with resources that keep coming. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/93 "2024-07-25T17:18:25Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Better to have the gap shrink by all boats rising, the lowest rising more. Or “levelling up” as they call it in the UK (though I notice they recently took the phrase out of their [Ministry’s name](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Housing,_Communities_and_Local_Government).) Ultimately, shrinking that gap comes down to giving labor more power and capital less. > [@DSeid](#): > > I’m of the belief that we are more stung by loss than pleased by gains of the same amounts. Psychologists would [agree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion) with you. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/94 "2024-07-25T18:17:47Z")
The GOP-controlled House of Representatives rushed today to pass a resolution that condemns, “the Biden Administration and its Border Czar, Kamala Harris’s, failure to secure the United States border.” (Harris has never held the title “border czar” and has never been in charge of border or immigration policy.) This is to be expected by the GOP, but six Democrats voted for the resolution as well. Those were: - Yadira Caraveo of Colorado - Henry Cuellar of Texas - Don Davis of North Carolina - Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington - Jared Golden of Maine - Mary Peltola of Alaska ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/95 "2024-07-25T18:25:01Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington Despite being a resident (and employee) of Washington State, I hadn’t heard of her. I looked her up and found that she is a co-chair of: > **[Blue Dog Coalition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition)** > > The Blue Dog Coalition, commonly known as the Blue Dogs or Blue Dog Democrats, is a caucus of moderate members from the Democratic Party in the United States House of Representatives. The caucus was founded as a group of conservative Democrats in 1995 in response to defeats in the 1994 elections. Historically, the Blue Dog Coalition has been both fiscally and socially conservative. At its peak in 2009, the Blue Dog Coalition numbered 54 members. > In the late 2010s and early 2020s, the Coalition... That might go a bit toward explaining why she was on board with this. From that list above, Mary Peltola, Henry Cuellar, and Jared Golden are also members. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/96 "2024-07-25T18:29:06Z")
Wait, so you mean they’re not frothing over getting their hands on Hunter Biden’s “laptop” and pictures of his junk anymore? {/sarcasm} ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/97 "2024-07-25T18:29:43Z")
Without looking them up individually, I’m sure that they’re all in swing districts (and Henry Cuellar also has a federal indictment to deal with). I don’t think, though, that going along with a deeply cynical Republican ploy to try to tar Harris with dysfunctions at the border is going to help them much. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/98 "2024-07-25T18:53:16Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > This is to be expected by the GOP, but six Democrats voted for the resolution as well. Those were: I have to admit, I held my breath while reading the list, dreading that there might be a Nebraskan name there. Heaven knows, we’ve elected some doozies. But since we are such an entrenched redoubt of unrepentant Republicanism, we don’t have any Democrats elected to upper level state offices (governor, Secretary of State, attorney general, our unicameral legislative chamber is controlled by [R]), much less national level like Congress. Our last Democratic governor was in 1999. At least we have twice split our Electoral College vote to give the Democratic candidate an elector: 1 for Obama in 2008, 1 for Biden in 2016. Pray for us. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/99 "2024-07-25T18:53:37Z")
[Her first ad!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHky_Xopyrw) I don’t know how to embed it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/100 "2024-07-25T19:13:45Z")
[Harris Narrows Gap Against Trump, Times/Siena Poll Finds](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/us/politics/poll-kamala-harris-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.900.Bb5a.b6CyMb2CWMqT&smid=url-share) (gift link to full article) > Overall, Mr. Trump leads Ms. Harris 48 percent to 47 percent among likely voters in a head-to-head match. That is a marked improvement for Democrats when compared to [the Times/Siena poll](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/poll-debate-biden-trump.html) in early July that showed Mr. Biden behind by six percentage points, in the aftermath of the poor debate performance that eventually drove him from the race. > The poll showed Ms. Harris garnering about 60 percent support from voters under 30 and Hispanic voters, groups Mr. Biden had consistently struggled with. Among voters under 45, Ms. Harris was ahead by 10 percentage points, less than three weeks after Mr. Trump had held a narrow edge with that group over Mr. Biden. and > Because the survey was of voters nationwide, the impact of Ms. Harris’s candidacy in particular battleground states was not immediately clear. But a Democratic candidate with greater appeal to younger and more diverse voters could put renewed focus on the Sun Belt states of Nevada, Arizona and Georgia, which had been threatening to slip off the swing-state map for Mr. Biden. Definitely reasons to be hopeful about where the race is headed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=6)