# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
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**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\
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That is of course fine. But not even “won’t post for a week is allowed.”

In fairness, Florida being in play could be as little as a 10% chance. Which would be a terrible bet to take, but a higher chance than I would have given it in June.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
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Florida is definitely in play. Recreational marijuana _and_ abortion rights are in the ballot. Rick Scott’s re-election is a toss up.

> **[Florida Senate race is dead heat: Poll](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4864690-florida-senate-race-poll-rick-scott/amp/)**
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> Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) and former Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell (D-Fla.) are locked in a dead heat in Florida’s Senate race, according to polling released Friday by The Hill and Emerson College Pol…

There are about 13.5 million Florida registered voters, and only 5.3 million are Republicans.

[https://dos.fl.gov/elections/data-statistics/voter-registration-statistics/voter-registration-reports/voter-registration-by-party-affiliation/](https://dos.fl.gov/elections/data-statistics/voter-registration-statistics/voter-registration-reports/voter-registration-by-party-affiliation/)

It comes down to turnout.

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> That is of course fine. But not even “won’t post for a week is allowed.”

Right. Just bragging rights and I will come back and say “I was wrong!”.

I will be happily wrong, but wrong.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1010 "2024-09-08T16:58:41Z")

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> [@Wrenching\_Spanners](#):
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> Being dropped into an executive role doesn’t make you a good executive.

> Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.

–William Shakespeare

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1011 "2024-09-08T19:20:16Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Being VP didn’t automatically mean she inherited the right to lead the campaign from then on, and it **certainly** didn’t mean the Democrats would fall completely in line when they rarely have before.

Well, and this is important. Us Democrats did vote for her on the ticket. MAGAs are pushing the idea that no one voted for her. Of course they ignore the fact that the GOP didnt bother with a primary in 2020.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Of course they ignore the fact that the GOP didnt bother with a primary in 2020.

They certainly did hold primaries overall, though several states (under pressure from Trump) cancelled their primaries and/or caucuses, or changed to a “winner take all” delegate assignment.

That said, it was not entirely unlike what had happened in prior recent elections, for both the Democrats and GOP, when they had an incumbent candidate, and some state-level primaries were cancelled. And, as with those earlier elections, with an incumbent candidate, Trump did not face any serious challengers from his party for the nomination.

> **[2020 Republican Party presidential primaries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries)**
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> Donald Trump
> Donald Trump

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A website for KBSF-TV in San Francisco ran a story about Ms Harris being involved in a [hit-and-run in June of 2011](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sham-news-site-false-claim-kamala-harris-car-accident/) which left a 13-year-old girl paralyzed.

KBSF does not exist, stock images were used to support the story, and no evidence can be found of such an incident, or, in fact, of KBSF, which has vanished off the web – but not before infecting several prominent Xwixxex accounts, which spread the BS with a butter knife.

This is kind of a new tactic – _really_ fake news, with malicious intent – which will be difficult to defend.

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How about changing your sig line/custom title to say “I was wrong?”

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> several prominent Xwixxex accounts

Should I know what this is?

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1016 "2024-09-08T22:55:19Z")

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Twitter, with liberal (heh) mockery of its name change to X.

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Twitter, also known as X since Elon Musk bought it.

ETA: Dammit, @Leaper. I thought I’d finally be able to be the first to answer a question.

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_ **Superdude!** _

_Almost as fast as a speeding question!_

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> How about changing your sig line/custom title to say “I was wrong?”

For an entire year? If the moderators don’t consider this against the rules, I’m up for it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1020 "2024-09-09T00:33:12Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> KBSF does not exist, stock images were used to support the story, and no evidence can be found of such an incident, or, in fact, of KBSF, which has vanished off the web – but not before infecting several prominent Xwixxex accounts, which spread the BS with a butter knife.

I very much doubt that’s the first or last attempt to fake up dirt, although it’s paticularly egregious in its use of preudo authorities.

As for “Xwixxex”, I find it much easier to use Xitter, with the initial “X” pronounced “sh”.

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**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1021 "2024-09-09T00:48:54Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I very much doubt that’s the first or last attempt to fake up dirt

Thing is, there is not much indication it will stick. Not like that whole CouchFucker thing. People latched onto that because we could believe it, and more importantly, _ **it was funny** _. If the RW ever figures out humor, we could be in trouble. But, I feel safe on that count.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> If the RW ever figures out humor, we could be in trouble. But, I feel safe on that count.

One read of the"comic" strip _Mallard Fillmore_ will confirm that.

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Well, once upon a time, under a different reckoning, Johnny Hart had some good strips. And ISTR a time when Scott Adams could do funny. Tim Allen was good in _Galaxy Quest_ (using someone else’s words). But once they start attacking, the humor gets defenestrated and after it splats, all the king’s horses, you know the rest.

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Yeh, the rightwingers think humor is punching down at their caricatures of liberals, which leaves anyone not in their bubble cold.

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If they can track this to an actual originator, this can be prosecuted right?  
Malicious intent being one of the factors for defamation of a famous person?

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Why is this a sign of dementia?

> whatever personality disorder someone has, it gets dramatically worse as their cognitive functions decline. All of Trump’s viciousness, hostility, and unpredictable and other pathological behavior is only going to get worse.

That’s from Dr. John Gartner at this link, a Salon article from March:

> **["Like someone pulled the metaphorical plug": Dr. John Gartner on Trump's...](https://www.salon.com/2024/03/01/like-someone-pulled-the-metaphorical-plug-dr-john-gartner-on-accelerating-dementia/)**
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> "Trump looks blank, stops in mid-sentence (or mid-word), his jaw goes a little slack"

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