# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns}

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/101 "2024-07-25T19:22:12Z")

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Also, [this is a gift link to the NYT poll tracker](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html) page which has a few polls conducted after Biden stepped aside. They do appear to show a shift in Harris’ direction.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/102 "2024-07-25T19:28:15Z")

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> [@Ferris](#):
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> If Harris very clearly and simply tells voters how her Presidency will be better for them - in two or three key areas of most concern - then that’s going to stick.

And it shouldn’t be hard. “They want to ban and criminalize abortion everywhere; we will make it legal everywhere. We will rein in global warming; they deny that it’s happening.” And so forth.

The chasm between the two parties has never been greater, and it’s simple and straightforward to spell out the major differences.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/103 "2024-07-25T19:35:00Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> And it shouldn’t be hard. “They want to ban and criminalize abortion everywhere; we will make it legal everywhere. We will rein in global warming; they deny that it’s happening.” And so forth.

LOL. You’re practically quoting multiple political ads here in Western Washington. Not ads for the presidential race (I haven’t seen any of them) but many state positions have ads running and those could have been taken word-for-word from them. You are correct that these are big issues, simple ones that the Democrats have an advantage on, and if they can be coordinated and get the message out consistently it will go a long way toward pushing back on Republicans in all races this November.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/104 "2024-07-25T19:37:55Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> We will rein in global warming; they deny that it’s happening.”

While we desperately need to do something – multiple things – about global warming: nothing\* that we do now is going to fix it within the next four years. “We will work to rein in and also to mitigate the effects of global warming” is longer, but less likely to bite you come time to seek a second term.

Admittedly, she’s got to win the first term first –

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(Well, short of enough nuclear war to set off global winter, anyway. But that would hardly be an improvement.)

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/105 "2024-07-25T19:47:20Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> [Her first ad!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHky_Xopyrw)

I like it.

Also interesting … the crowd chanting _Ka-ma-LA!_ puts the accent on the third syllable. Technically, they’re mispronouncing it, but it clearly doesn’t dilute the impact. Which is why Trump & Co. intentionally mispronouncing it as an insult falls flat. It’s a “so what”? The more the name gets said, the better.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/106 "2024-07-25T19:53:04Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> While we desperately need to do something – multiple things – about global warming: nothing\* that we do now is going to fix it within the next four years. “We will work to rein in and also to mitigate the effects of global warming” is longer, but less likely to bite you come time to seek a second term.

What sounds better as well as being truthful is to say that they will implement programs to help mitigate the effects of global warming and start the recovery process. That’s hopeful, accurate, and isn’t making promises that they can’t possible fulfill.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/107 "2024-07-25T19:59:32Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> I don’t know how to embed it.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sHky_Xopyrw/maxresdefault.jpg "Kamala Harris Launches Her Campaign for President") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHky_Xopyrw)

There you go.

That video is freaking fantastic. Not just the hopefulness and the hipness, but the quick little bit (that is short to not dominate the video or change its tone) to remind you of how much a monster Trump is. I’m not exaggerating when I say it’s the best political ad I’ve seen in a while. I hope everything to come is as good as that is.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/108 "2024-07-25T20:08:44Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> I don’t know how to embed it.

I have been seeing Harris campaign ads on FB for some time, and sometimes Biden/Harris with Harris picture even before that.

> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Also, [this is a gift link to the NYT poll tracker](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html) page which has a few polls conducted after Biden stepped aside. They do appear to show a shift in Harris’ direction.

I do not trust the NYT anymore, but here is a link to 538-

> **[President: general election Polls](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/)**
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> The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

Still Harris is within a point or two of trump. but mostly a point or two better than trump.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/109 "2024-07-25T20:14:20Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That video

I managed to pause it at the right spot to read the doctor’s nametag (at 0.49.)

Dr. Austin Dem(the rest invisible)  
Obstetrics/Gyn(the rest invisible)

Beautiful attention to a detail that probably most people won’t even see!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/110 "2024-07-25T20:23:38Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> At least we have twice split our Electoral College vote to give the Democratic candidate an elector: 1 for Obama in 2008, **1 for Biden in _2016_**.

It seems as though Individual-ONE has distorted our memories so badly that we cannot get our dates right anymore.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/111 "2024-07-25T20:45:19Z")

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It is sad to say that some trump women voters are just stupid.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/112 "2024-07-25T20:48:38Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Individual-ONE has distorted our memories so badly that we cannot get our dates right anymore.

Thank you~I wondered about that after the edit window closed. You’re right, of course. It was **2008** (Obama) and **2020** (Biden) when the (D) presidential candidate got the one split off Electoral College vote in Nebraska.

> **[Nebraska Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin](https://www.270towin.com/states/nebraska)**
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> Information on how the residents of Nebraska have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2024 election, as well as a Nebraska voting history and narrative.

Thank you for catching that. I can only hope for that tiny bit of history to repeat itself in 2024.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/113 "2024-07-25T21:13:19Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That video is freaking fantastic.

It is a good video, but I do wonder if Joe winced when he heard the lyric “Imma keep running 'cause a winner don’t quit on themselves…” at the end. 🤦‍♂️

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Eek I missed that. 😖

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/115 "2024-07-25T22:58:29Z")

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> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1816600997873197308>

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/1816601758325702657>

I hope this will assuage some of the voters who were concerned about Biden’s tack on Gaza.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/116 "2024-07-25T23:31:53Z")

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Meanwhile, multiple tee shirt sites are offering this:

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A13usaonutL._CLa%7C2140%2C2000%7C915h41Zao3L.png%7C0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_SX679_.png) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A13usaonutL._CLa%7C2140%2C2000%7C915h41Zao3L.png%7C0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_SX679_.png)

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/117 "2024-07-26T09:07:09Z")

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And….the Obamas are in. I actually supported them waiting to endorse until the final nomination but I’ll take it anyway.

> **[Barack and Michelle Obama endorse Kamala Harris for president | CNN Politics](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement)**
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> Former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential bid.

The video isn’t showing up on my feeds but I saw it on the TV.

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> And….the Obamas are in. I actually supported them waiting to endorse until the final nomination but I’ll take it anyway.

So did I. I thought he might be staying neutral so he could seem like the unbiased elder statesman at the convention.

And maybe he was, but considered there was no longer a need for it, and that Harris would benefit more from his announcement now. One thing might be to make those “I’m black and I’m not voting for Kamala” ~~ads~~ posts on Twitter have to go after him, too.

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**Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/119 "2024-07-26T09:48:35Z")

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“Childless cat ladies.” Jeez. What is so wrong with that?

I’m childless, I love cats (I’ve owned at least a dozen in my life), and I’m a man. So two out of three ain’t bad, I guess.

My ex, however, is a childless lady, who loves cats. She is also American. Guess who she will not be voting for, based on that remark by Vance?

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> So two out of three ain’t bad, I guess.

It’s ok, **spoons** ~I’m only 2 for 3 myself, just ask my kids.

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