# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1263 "2024-09-17T21:17:21Z")
I’m so envious. I love a good rally. I hope you enjoy it very much. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1264 "2024-09-17T21:21:44Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > One of the three main characters is named Kamala, and everyone in the film pronounces it “Kuh-MALL-ah.” My soundly liberal 24-year-old son, who’s 100% voting for Harris, also pronounces it that way. I correct him every time, and it’s gotten to be a running joke. /hijack ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1265 "2024-09-17T21:26:03Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > My soundly liberal 24-year-old son, who’s 100% voting for Harris, also pronounces it that way. I correct him every time, and it’s gotten to be a running joke. /hijack . Well, Marvel IS a mighty entertainment company. Subverting their influence is easier said than done. I’m sure many reading here knew about this before I did, but having just found out last night, I was struck by the possibility that some who mispronounce her name aren’t doing it with hateful intent. And I’m not so sure this is a hijack–her image and her name ARE part of her campaign, after all. It’s more of a sidelight than a hijack, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1266 "2024-09-17T21:31:25Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > In my way of thinking, it will backfire. What could be dumber than reminding voters of what even Trump supporters realize to be among his worst moments? The reason it SHOULD backfire is that it’s telling Arizonans that THEY should eat fewer kittens. It’s like the Arizona GOP is claiming that only Republicans can keep random cats from coming into our homes on little fog feet and jumping willy-nilly into a pan on the stove. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1267 "2024-09-17T21:40:49Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > A new Morning consult swing state poll post debate, when it comes out, merits immediate discussion. Not a swing state poll, but today Morning Consult announced a new large-scale national poll (n=11,000, MOE = +/- 1%) that puts Harris over Trump by 6 points, 51-45. [https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling](https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/2024-presidential-election-polling) > Harris leads Trump by a record-high 6 percentage points among likely voters, 51% to 45%, up from a 3-point advantage before their debate last week. Her 51% of support among likely voters, which is also at a record high, is driven largely by her best figures to date among Democrats, Biden 2020 voters, liberals, women, 18- to 34-year-olds and millennials. > > The VP bested Trump in the debate: Most likely voters who watched at least some of the debate (61%) — including 1 in 5 Republicans — said Harris performed best, compared with 33% who said Trump was the winner. That 28-point margin in Harris’ favor among debate viewers is equal to the advantage Trump garnered against President Joe Biden in our post-debate survey in late June. > > And her image is better than ever: 53% of likely voters have a favorable view of Harris, the largest share we’ve measured this cycle. By comparison, just 44% of voters view Trump favorably. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1268 "2024-09-17T21:44:13Z")
Yeah. Thing is MAGAverse review bombed that movie before ever seeing it and did not watch it. It’s a three female hero lead movie. Not standing around talking about men or being saved by them. It was WOKE! They never heard that character’s name pronounced. (Someone very familiar with South Asian culture might pronounce it that way also. These folk are not those folk.) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1269 "2024-09-17T21:50:29Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Thing is MAGAverse review bombed that movie before ever seeing it and did not watch it. It’s a three female hero lead movie. Not standing around talking about men or being saved by them. It was WOKE! Yes, good point. The viewership for the movie was relatively small (though I don’t know about the TV show). And those who self-selected to see it were not the MAGA ‘bro’ type—who would disdain anything like cultural sensitivity, and pronouncing people’s names as those people prefer. > [@DSeid](#): > > Someone very familiar with South Asian culture might pronounce it that way also I didn’t know that, but it makes sense that those involved with creating the entertainment would at least have tried to have it spoken ‘South Asian’-style. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1270 "2024-09-17T21:51:41Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It could be mischief—but it _could_ be an honest mistake due to influence from the TV show and movie. Been reading Ms. Marvel since 2014 or so - I pronounced it wrong in my head until Harris was nominated and my memory of discussions with other readers (at comic conventions or whatever) is that the “wrong” pronunciation dominated. I feel particularly embarrassed because I have a middle-eastern name than people stress wrong all the time, so that’s one place I don’t assume malice. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1271 "2024-09-17T21:52:18Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > So now Iowa is close, and **Florida is close**. Both trump states in 2020. _(my emphasis)_ I’ve just learned about this guy yesterday, and the underpinnings seem thin – but for grins, what the hey: Data analyst and tech entrepreneur **[Christopher Bouzy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Bouzy)** released a **[72-minute podcast](https://spoutible.com/pod/66d6f712d52e2559ef4743db)** on Sunday 9/15/2024 in which he revealed the results of his current general election analysis. _Disclosure: I have not listened to the podcast._ I’ve not found a transcript or any way online to look behind the curtain of Bouzy’s analysis (that’s the “thin underpinning”). He did, however, **[release two election maps with his recent podcast](https://spoutible.com/thread/35986112)** – one the results of the Electoral College, the other a map of Senate race results: [![](https://media.spoutible.com/upload/images/2024/09/qF4j16ismB3mNEGVad37_15_d4865d4df3bc8bdcbcfc0e75e89847aa_image_original.png) ](https://media.spoutible.com/upload/images/2024/09/qF4j16ismB3mNEGVad37_15_d4865d4df3bc8bdcbcfc0e75e89847aa_image_original.png) So, anyway … all that to say that someone _has_ gone public with a prediction that Florida will go blue this general election. It looks like he has Rick Scott losing his Senate seat to Democrat Debbie Mucarsel-Powell as well (though I see Bouzy has John Tester losing in Montana). All that and $7 will get you a venti latte. But, man, the Comments sections of liberal Substack are hanging hard onto Bouzy’s analysis (no shock why, I don’t suppose). Would really love to see Bouzy’s work fleshed out, just to see if something is really there. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1272 "2024-09-17T21:54:55Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > my memory of discussions with other readers (at comic conventions or whatever) is that the “wrong” pronunciation dominated. Interesting. And no doubt annoying for those whose names are routinely said in a way the name-holder does not prefer. I would guess that Harris, like you, is fairly used to that sort of thing (throughout her life). And that like you, she doesn’t assume malice (though well-aware that it does exist in some she interacts with). ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1273 "2024-09-17T22:26:37Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > random cats from coming into our homes on little fog feet You either have the typo of the day or you have the best Carl Sandburg twist of words ever. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1274 "2024-09-18T00:08:14Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > All that and $7 will get you a venti latte. But, man, the Comments sections of liberal Substack are hanging hard onto Bouzy’s analysis (no shock why, I don’t suppose). Would really love to see Bouzy’s work fleshed out, just to see if something is really there. Nice to see, but I am not gonna bet on it (without a little odds, anyway- I am gonna bet the Florida is so close they dont call it for a while). Still, stuff like this must be keeping any of the real old guard sane Republicans up at night. Losing Florida, and having tTxas turn pink and Iowa a toss up state? Nightmare fuel for them. Of course the MAGAs arent sane so they dont care. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1275 "2024-09-18T00:18:10Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > You either have the typo of the day or you have the best Carl Sandburg twist of words ever. Thank you! I was wondering if anyone would catch the allusion since schools don’t really teach Sandburg any more. (Maybe only the schools in Illinois did.) I always thought the metaphor was just as good if it was reversed. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1276 "2024-09-18T00:23:20Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I was wondering if anyone would catch the allusion I caught it. And liked it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1277 "2024-09-18T00:57:49Z")
Yeah, me too. I got it. Totally. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1278 "2024-09-18T01:23:04Z")
I should have known Dopers would be that well-read. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1279 "2024-09-18T01:28:19Z")
Sadly not all of us. [hangs head in uncultured shame] ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1280 "2024-09-18T01:30:13Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (I’ll put this in parentheses as it’s truly an aside, but: last night a recent Marvel movie, _The Marvels,_ came to broadcast TV for the first time—and I realized that some of the GOP mucking-about with the pronunciation of Harris’s name may be come by honestly, instead of maliciously. One of the three main characters is named Kamala, and everyone in the film pronounces it “Kuh-MALL-ah.” So maybe those who’ve seen this movie (or the 2022 TV series about the same character), and who hadn’t thought much about Harris before, simply assumed that her first name was pronounced as is the identically-spelled name in the movie. Given the age of most Trump voters, they’re more likely thinking of Kamala the Ugandan Giant, the '80s & '90s pro wrestling heel. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1281 "2024-09-18T02:27:17Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Sadly not all of us. [hangs head in uncultured shame] Mostly I don’t get references on the Dope. It was nice to get one for a change. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1282 "2024-09-18T03:18:41Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Sadly not all of us. [hangs head in uncultured shame] > [@nelliebly](#): > > I should have known Dopers would be that well-read. Well, me … I didn’t catch the Sandberg reference on my own–but I did get it , after it was pointed out. So I guess I’m just a semi-Doper. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=64)